Like if you're homeless without income, an increase in investment in low-to-middle income housing will literally do nothing for you.

@fuck12moredeadcops the vast majority of homeless are temporary

Like, just a little gap of under 2 months

So it would absolutely do something for you.

What're you basing that on?

I can't find any studies backing that claim, and I organize in my city. Most of the people on the street have been there 1-2 years, or they're periodically in and out of temporary housing situations

The problem we should focus on chiefly is mental healthcare and harm reduction, if you're trying to tackle homelessness. I don't wholly disagree with the sentiment of decreasing rent (though something more aggressive than a 10% reduction is necessary), or incentivizing the expansion of more low-to-middle income housing, but presenting these things as viable solutions to solving homelessness is a mistake to me.

https://www.projecthome.org/about/facts-homelessness

Chronic homelessness accounts for 24% of homelessness

76% are temporary

Actually addressing homelessness means a complete restructuring of mental healthcare, and a housing first approach.

Not like

just building housing they're not mentally equipped to afford

Yes, a single payer system would go a long way toward helping homelessness by getting people mental health care

It’s a multifaceted problem, absolutely

Also the way they're defining chronically homeless doesn't account for those who are constantly in and out of temporary housing situations

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"*Chronically homeless individuals are individuals with disabilities who have either been continuously homeless for one year or more or who have experienced at least four episodes of homelessness in the past three years where the combined length of time homeless in those occasions is at least 12 months.*"

It’s the technical definition

And they also necessitate some form of disability

I'm not just talking about the disabled and people who're wholly unsheltered for an entire year. Anybody who cannot find a stable living situation is in just as shite a situation

...ok

The 3 types of homelessness are chronic, transitional and disaster

We typically talk about chronic

And that’s mostly what you and trauma are talking about

But they’re a minority of the homeless pop

Mostly people who lose jobs and such

Transitional

I'm just talking about anybody without a stable living situation, I'm not sure how it ought to be arbitrarily understood for the sake of data-taking or particular social programs. If you can find somewhere to stay for 6 months in a program, but they put you back on the street at the end of the 6 months, you're suffering like any other unsheltered person to me because of the precarity involved with your living situation, but that's kind of beside the point.

Anybody who is without income outside of welfare, wouldn't be able to afford to live in a low-to-middle income housing situation

And a 10% reduction wouldn't help them much either

In urbanisation, housing are going to cost more in cities where most the jobs are

It's not a complete response to ending homelessness. Something like a Housing First policy or like we both agree single-payer could actually address the core cause of homelessness

Theres always going to be homelessness (as of our current time)

I think you’re underestimating how much a 10% reduction would alleviate housing prices

But sure I agree it’s not a perfect solution

I mean like I'm low-to-middle income. My housing combined with my roommate cost like 800 dollars

10% means I get 40 more dollars

annual or monthly?

Monthly

a 40 dollar reduction doesn't make it accessible to people in lower income brackets.