Nobody doing what I do for work lives downtown.

mamma mia

here we go again

We’re talking about the Bay Area and NYC

We’re talking about the Bay Area and NYC

My rent is $2000

Sure if you live in like San Francisco or NYC, 10% on your rent as a low-to-middle income person is pretty substantial, but outside of areas NYC, San Francisco, LA, and maybe DC, like in the rest of the country, for renters it's negligible

Right, but that’s where the homeless problem is the greatest

Homeless people

have no income

Decreasing rent

won't help them

Or they have an income so low that they can't afford rent, and a 10% reduction won't get them into an apartment building.

Homelessness happen in high rent cities, a 10% reduction helps people not get evicted

Approaching a solution to homelessness through the lens of the marketplace is usually going to be ineffective. Countries which have near non-existent homeless populations employ Housing First and get them in homes without asking for rent.

@3v6en8 Yeah like I said it'll help people dealing with gentrification, but it's not going to do anything if you're homeless

Again that’s not accurate

Alleviating the housing market in the aggregate helps homelessness

More homes = lower cost

What does a 10% reduction to rent do for someone on Skid Row?

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Well, if they were kicked out of their house because they couldn’t afford rent, it lets them move back into their house

So they’re no longer homeless

Okay, if your rent goes up, and you can't afford it, and you decide to stay anyway with no plan to relocate yourself and that caused your homelessness, yeah it'll help you

Honestly for skid row, its needs low income jobs and low income housing

...no

So remember that’s 76% of people

But the market moves as a whole

If someone higher up has a rent reduction, it allows them to upgrade

Making room for someone lower on the chain and so on

Like I’m not saying it solves all the problems

Nice way of saying that

By a very strict definition of chronically homeless you've derived that number. If you're in and out of temporary living situations with no clear path to permanent housing, you're not counted as chronically homeless, and if you have no disability you're not counted as chronically homeless.

But obviously if you have a 10% alleviation in rent it lowers housing costs

So?

If you are alleviating for some you are alleviating for all

So this number is absolutely flawed when a large chunk of the population which is habitually on the street is not counted.

Because the people who ARE helped are no longer taxing the system, and can provide help for the others

You have no data to support that claim.

If you disagree with official estimates, then provide alternative data

I don't disagree with the official estimates, I think the categories they've created don't accurately reflect the number of people without places to stay on a regular basis.