Message from @fuck12moredeadcops
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So is it a problem on both sides? Yes
Is it an *equal* problem? Not even close
Democrats dont take money from Unions at all
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@Deleted User I’m not trying to offend you, I’m telling you to fuck off
You were the one responding retard
@Deleted User now I’m blocking you, you nazi piece of shit
Fox news is opinion and propaganda
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Its okay you degenerates and the people you follow will meet the rope god willing
Yeah Republicans are more likely to take corporate money and do it on a larger scale, but Democrats aren’t ideologically or fundamentally opposed to capital. Their plan is, as it’s always been, is to minimize the destructive consequences of capitalism to maintain it into the future. Like FDR said his greatest accomplishment was saving capitlaism, and Democrats are just as invested in this maintenance of a corporate status quo
@TheNobody Is it cool if someone just threatens violence in this server?
...right, but if we’re outside of a fun fantasy land
The fun fantasyland of actual opposition to capitlaism?
I think that’s an unrealistic view of the way politics works in general
“The plan is, as it has always been”
Suggests some sort of cabal running things
The parties aren’t just shadowy organizations, they’re dynamic blocs
Yeah sure it’s not some organized and conscious effort, as much as it’s just a consequence of the political trajectory of liberalism. It’s the result of the political framework they’ve put themselves in. They’re wholly incapable of challenging the fundamental assumptions of capitalism, and as a result they seek its maintenance necessarily.
Then can you do something about Rockwell suggesting we get hung? @TheNobody
I don’t think that’s accurate
I mean look at Warren and Sanders
You don’t think they are a positive step?
Or are you just an anti-incrementalism so you think we should burn it all down
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I think it’s a positive step, and ideally one of them becomes the Democratic Candidate, but they’re not suggesting fundamental changes, just compromises, and when the UN scientist are telling us even if we were to meet our current emissions reduction goals (which we aren’t), we’re going to have catastrophic changes to our food production output, an answer outside of compromise is necessary
Yes, I agree with most of that, what kind of fundamental changes do you think are necessary?
It’s not burning it down. If the boat is sinking it’s not crazy to suggest we get on a different one.
An end to production for the sake of profit, a nationalization of all industry (where it is possible), a cessation of non-socially necessary production
If we don’t stop making fidget spinners, and stop overproducing we are existentially threatened, and Warren and Sanders don’t suggest solutions which will fix things like that. I think they’re steps in the right direction and they could shift the Overton Window further Left the same way Trump has shifted it Right, but they’re the most extreme Left wing of the Democratic Party
As an institution, the Democratic Party doesn’t have the necessary anti-capitalist posture
Eh, I don’t think there’s evidence to support those claims
Nationalize the industry? Is globalization that bad?
Huh, guess we should stop importing goods from other countries because they're making profit; guess we should also slow down the economy because thats also how we make profit
Should take a look at the Netherlands, they're doing some interesting innovation with agriculture; but ofc, *don't buy produce from the Netherlands because it'll make profit for them*
@3v6en8 No it means like
State ownership of the industry
Not an end to global trade