@Cobra Commander feelings

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/

I doubt that Trump is exactly innocent in the situation though

He's playing chess again

clearly he is not. you can go after the bidens without any of that

the FBI has foreign offices exactly for this

Trump could have avoided this entirely by punting it to the State Department, or writing a check for op ed research. He'd still be chasing a dumb conspiracy theory, but nothing illegal.
Instead he has his own personal lawyer, which we don't even know the full extent of his clearance with national security, scuttling around with foreign powers asking for dirt. What business does Guiliani have being there?

Because he has the power to

it would take 3 seconds to find an FBI special agent with a hardon against democrats to take that cse

He doesn't trust the FBI

and it would be done properly, with chain of custody for evidence, etc

he's the president, he can change it

Properly with the corrupt FBI

what does 'not trust' the fbi mean

he doesn't trust them because most are not corrupt

Well unfortunately for Trump @Puerto Rican Nelson , an impeachment does not require anything illegal to occur

it's a purely political process that can have criminal outcomes

Sure.

Pelosi isn't going to do it, but that's a diff issue

practically he's going to win, because pelosi is whatever she is

If Dems want to win 2020 for sure, they need to nut up and go for impeachment.

it's not just about dems winning, they want Biden, maybe warren as a risky backup

their worst outcome is a bernie president probably

it's not just dems versus republicans, the establishment dems are also against the 'justice dems'

And then the Senate will throw it out

I don't think impeachment is the wisest strategy, voting him out in the election would be a sounder process

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/senate-trump-impeachment.html

Dismissal

Who said anything about conviction in the senate? Get Trump's dumb ass to testify under oath, watch him prejur himself dozens of times, then show republicans ignoring it, as they did with his obstruction of justice.

McConnel told repubs to get ready for it, thanksgiving, 6 day a week meetings

The Democrats need to actually provide sound positions in their campaigns, not talk about big orange constantly if they want to win.

And to actually talk about them more

They already have that in the works. How is Trump going to defend his status quo?

It's both. it's two different things. impeachment is one thing, important, and it involves existing house members. the primaries are also important and need ot be done

it's one or the other, gov still rolls on during an election

Acquittal

There's dozens of things to attack Trump on, including holding him to standards of success republicans would desire. Failing to repeal and replace Obamacare is embarrassing as fuck, and they know it.

well that's not a democrat talking point, but that would be good for a republican primary opponent to use

And of two-thirds of the Senate don't care like you said ....acquittal or dismissal

You're missing the other consequences of impeachment entirely. Always to the finish line of whether Trump meets a criminal standard.

you never know until it comes up. when they have to actually put their name to something in the record, sometimes change