it's a purely political process that can have criminal outcomes

Sure.

Pelosi isn't going to do it, but that's a diff issue

practically he's going to win, because pelosi is whatever she is

If Dems want to win 2020 for sure, they need to nut up and go for impeachment.

it's not just about dems winning, they want Biden, maybe warren as a risky backup

their worst outcome is a bernie president probably

it's not just dems versus republicans, the establishment dems are also against the 'justice dems'

And then the Senate will throw it out

I don't think impeachment is the wisest strategy, voting him out in the election would be a sounder process

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/senate-trump-impeachment.html

Dismissal

Who said anything about conviction in the senate? Get Trump's dumb ass to testify under oath, watch him prejur himself dozens of times, then show republicans ignoring it, as they did with his obstruction of justice.

McConnel told repubs to get ready for it, thanksgiving, 6 day a week meetings

The Democrats need to actually provide sound positions in their campaigns, not talk about big orange constantly if they want to win.

And to actually talk about them more

They already have that in the works. How is Trump going to defend his status quo?

It's both. it's two different things. impeachment is one thing, important, and it involves existing house members. the primaries are also important and need ot be done

it's one or the other, gov still rolls on during an election

Acquittal

There's dozens of things to attack Trump on, including holding him to standards of success republicans would desire. Failing to repeal and replace Obamacare is embarrassing as fuck, and they know it.

well that's not a democrat talking point, but that would be good for a republican primary opponent to use

And of two-thirds of the Senate don't care like you said ....acquittal or dismissal

You're missing the other consequences of impeachment entirely. Always to the finish line of whether Trump meets a criminal standard.

you never know until it comes up. when they have to actually put their name to something in the record, sometimes change

there might also be consequences for senate members not running an honest show if it gets up there

including democrat senators, which might be why pelsoi has cold feet

Putting this on the senate debate floor, examining the evidence of the Ukraine shit entirely helps circulate it to the public. It will expose the GOP bastards for being party loyalists.

there's more dirt out there, Pelosi is trying to look as tough as possible while doing as little as possible

Mitch is bluffing counting on Nancy to keep it bogged down and forgotten

which is why the left hates pelosi

Every day they get more impeachment material from witnesses. The latest poll shows 51% in favor of impeach AND removal from office.

Not just on Trump but on everything

She clowned Trump on the shutdown, but yeah, throw her old ass out. Old guard of delusional corporate dems that guided Hillary to defeat.

Republicans that voted for Trump know that the polls are always wrong like they were in 2016

polls aren't always wrong but you can't take polls as complete fact

this meme again. Can you tell me the difference between polls and projections?

the answer is Wolf Blitzer

The polls were ok, the pundits were wrong

According to RCP, they were more accurate in 2016 than 2012

We have syria now... GOP in senare pissed off.