I'm not sure why this point is constantly repeated, we saw the memo and this was never requested.

If he actually requested that then an actual impeachment inquiry would likely be occuring

mainly because the dems spread it as quick as they could knowing it'd would be dubunked, so leftists who didn't watch right wing media would never find out and keep talking about it, spreading the rumour.

Trump and Rudy, despite being told by Ukrainian and US officials, kept asking about The Bidens. The misinfo being spread is by them. Trump via Rudy(eventually) was doing it in order to blacken Biden as his opponent

```Rudy Giuliani's only interest in Ukraine was to push the idea of an investigation into Biden and then push that idea with the American media, to hype it, and to attack Biden's son ahead of the U.S. election.```
```Sergii Leshchenko, a former lawmaker who worked under former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.```

Not that the bidens aren't fuckheads, but you dont need to go through a sneaky process and do end-run around 25+ year FSOs to do that

if you know who Leshchenko is, you know he is probably one of the few trustworthy voices, as he made his name in Ukraine fighting corruption

which ended outsing the previous admin there

ON top of all that, our diplomatic situation with Ukraine is also delicate, so it was a double error

similar to situation with trump, erdogan, turkey, and the kurds. it shows putting personal interest against national interest, which is why yovanovitch did what she did

When did the left become the new conspiracy theorists

what does this have to do with the left

What's your source for this?

Anti-Trump

@Cobra Commander feelings

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/

I doubt that Trump is exactly innocent in the situation though

He's playing chess again

clearly he is not. you can go after the bidens without any of that

the FBI has foreign offices exactly for this

Trump could have avoided this entirely by punting it to the State Department, or writing a check for op ed research. He'd still be chasing a dumb conspiracy theory, but nothing illegal.
Instead he has his own personal lawyer, which we don't even know the full extent of his clearance with national security, scuttling around with foreign powers asking for dirt. What business does Guiliani have being there?

Because he has the power to

it would take 3 seconds to find an FBI special agent with a hardon against democrats to take that cse

He doesn't trust the FBI

and it would be done properly, with chain of custody for evidence, etc

he's the president, he can change it

Properly with the corrupt FBI

what does 'not trust' the fbi mean

he doesn't trust them because most are not corrupt

Well unfortunately for Trump @Puerto Rican Nelson , an impeachment does not require anything illegal to occur

it's a purely political process that can have criminal outcomes

Sure.

Pelosi isn't going to do it, but that's a diff issue

practically he's going to win, because pelosi is whatever she is

If Dems want to win 2020 for sure, they need to nut up and go for impeachment.

it's not just about dems winning, they want Biden, maybe warren as a risky backup

their worst outcome is a bernie president probably

it's not just dems versus republicans, the establishment dems are also against the 'justice dems'

And then the Senate will throw it out

I don't think impeachment is the wisest strategy, voting him out in the election would be a sounder process

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/senate-trump-impeachment.html