Message from @Sh0t

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2020-01-08 03:55:38 UTC  

It's not a charity. It's a public good

2020-01-08 03:55:43 UTC  

the gov is not a business nor a charity

2020-01-08 03:56:05 UTC  

it doesn't rob peter to pay paul. it pays paul, then taxes peter to control inflation of the currency it itself emits and controls

2020-01-08 03:56:27 UTC  

even under commodity money, debt/credit was still 90% of the action, it just cleared differently

2020-01-08 03:56:41 UTC  

even JFK knew this and he died long before pure fiat dollar

2020-01-08 03:57:19 UTC  

I agree with that

2020-01-08 03:57:29 UTC  

I’m not arguing that.

2020-01-08 03:57:37 UTC  

this "politics of envy" scenario invoking "you are robbing me to pay for somebody else' seducation!" is a misunderstanding of how FEDERAL spending works at least

2020-01-08 03:58:02 UTC  

Inflation needs to be controlled and taxes should flex compared to inflation needs.

2020-01-08 03:58:06 UTC  

the states and counties are not monetary sovereigns however, but the fedgov can transfer at the institution level or as granular as policy wants

2020-01-08 03:58:36 UTC  

re inflation, there are also some bad assumptions about 'how much', often because of a special interest group

2020-01-08 03:58:52 UTC  

in the 70s/80s, it was the fixed income types that wanting the gov to basically gurantee them high rates an dlow inflation, a massive subsidy

2020-01-08 03:59:24 UTC  

these same people funded much of the conservative movement and still do. so it was a very successful operation to get a huge privilege and then fund propaganda to keep it

2020-01-08 04:00:30 UTC  

Although in a country built on freedom, you need a balance

2020-01-08 04:00:49 UTC  

there is no contradiction here

2020-01-08 04:01:01 UTC  

these were essentially the beliefs of the people involved in the constitution, if that matters

2020-01-08 04:01:27 UTC  

having a monetary sovereign and 'general welfare' was part of the goal for creating a more powerful central government

2020-01-08 04:01:41 UTC  

with 'libertarian' style rights a given for individuals

2020-01-08 04:02:20 UTC  

there is no freedom versus gov spending 'balance', it's a bogeyman a certain faction of theUS drags out to scare people into voting against their interest

2020-01-08 04:03:12 UTC  

damn Iran claiming direct responsibility for the attacks

2020-01-08 04:03:22 UTC  

we are now officially in a shooting war with another country

2020-01-08 04:03:27 UTC  

not a non-state terrorist organization

2020-01-08 04:04:10 UTC  

Hello yes, I joined to learn more about this new conflict between Iran and the U.S.

2020-01-08 04:05:24 UTC  

Well, it started with destroying non-state terrorist organizations. Then they decided they wanted to strike back, and now we have to fight. There was no way to get out of that if you want to take down a giant terrorist corporation funded by the government of another country

2020-01-08 04:05:25 UTC  

GG @Yusa, you just advanced to level 8!

2020-01-08 04:06:30 UTC  

I think we just summed up the argument for you Knitemare

2020-01-08 04:06:50 UTC  

Why is Iran funding terrorist organizations.

2020-01-08 04:07:22 UTC  

And how has that impacted their global image.

2020-01-08 04:07:23 UTC  

they maintai proxies and relationships with local militia

2020-01-08 04:07:38 UTC  

they are loved in many areas, hated by the US, ISrael, and Saudi Arabia

2020-01-08 04:07:50 UTC  

Soleimani was most loved operative in Shia world fo rsure

2020-01-08 04:07:55 UTC  

Nasrallah #2 or tied for first

2020-01-08 04:08:10 UTC  

the houthi loved him and pledged to fight

2020-01-08 04:08:33 UTC  

Everybody has a longing for power, Iran is no different. They try to get it in their own sad way, not based on freedom.

2020-01-08 04:08:35 UTC  

as have Hezbollah and some palestians, Putin said Trump is plementing the NEOCON war plan, etc

2020-01-08 04:09:04 UTC  

not everybody 'longs for power' that way

2020-01-08 04:09:12 UTC  

that's what people say to excuse their behavior

2020-01-08 04:09:35 UTC  

Iran policy has been consistent. they want ot be the local hegemon they naturally are, and they are the protectors of Shia islam

2020-01-08 04:09:50 UTC  

I’m not saying that as an excuse, I’m saying that it is a bad thing that must be controlled.

2020-01-08 04:10:15 UTC  

When did U.S. and Iranian the relationship begin to go downhill. Have there been attempts to reestablish good relations?

2020-01-08 04:10:29 UTC  

we had the JCPOA which trump pulled the us out of