Why does god torture humans? And all other life, for that matter?

Lol the idea is demented on every level

You worship the devil

@Pelth No it doesn't. I can know priori arguments with absolute certainty.

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No you can’t you ignorant fool

Yes I can, are you dumb?

Where are you getting this 'humans can't know something absolute'

From what philosophy?

@Gerry Why is the atheist stance based on faith?

If you firmly believe that no god exists you have faith in the fact that god does not exist

Because he has not been proven to exist

Nor has his existence been disproven

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@Gerry If we go by empiricial observation, we can deduct that God does not exist. If we go from various arguments such as, logical PoE, divine hiddeness, no arguments argument, etc then we can also conclude the same thing.

But can you prove that he does not exist?

Thats like saying there are giant marshmellows that fly around the milky way naked

Can you prove that isnt true?

@Gerry Yes, from those arguments.

I mean strictly speaking

The Bible says that god is everything and nothing

@Gerry Yes. If p, then not p. Failure of arguments for a necessary being show otherwise.

But it’s a paradox

What verse?

And what version?

Oof I’m going to have to go through a lot of bible verses

But it’s not in one verse

I believe it is an interpretation

It's not a paradox to not believe something without evidence lmao

Yeah I'm gonna need more background, because Christians who are also in philosophy wouldn't agree with that.

And using logic to disprove god will be hard because he defies all logic

He is not a logical being

He is something we cannot comprehend

"He defies all logic"

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God of Gaps.

I mean sure

Furthermore, I can just use Plantinga's argument.

If God is not bound by the laws of logic, then God succumbs to the simple omnipotence paradox "Can God lift a rock heavier than himself."

Plantinga got around this by saying that omnipotence is doing anything **logically** possible.

So hence we know that God does not defy logic.

The thing is

There is nothing heavier than himself