Message from @pennypal

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2019-10-07 23:43:32 UTC  

Okay? Religon is the biggest.

2019-10-07 23:43:39 UTC  

I just don’t see why that means I should not believe in a God.

2019-10-07 23:43:40 UTC  

This is religion and philosophy, not science and religion.

2019-10-07 23:43:45 UTC  

Vibe...

2019-10-07 23:43:52 UTC  

The lots of different definition of God than most people use

2019-10-07 23:43:53 UTC  

@Otto More like freedom to belive in sky wizzards and lessen the advancement of the people.

2019-10-07 23:44:01 UTC  

If God is all powerful and all good there would be no evil in the world

2019-10-07 23:44:02 UTC  

simple as

2019-10-07 23:44:06 UTC  

@fuck12moredeadcops So you agree to subjective morality then?

2019-10-07 23:44:11 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-07 23:44:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Science and philosophy are very tightly knit.

2019-10-07 23:44:21 UTC  

I don’t believe in objective morality

2019-10-07 23:44:27 UTC  

Why not?

2019-10-07 23:44:38 UTC  

Of course not, it would be stupid to think morality is objective.

2019-10-07 23:44:40 UTC  

Everything in philosophy you're very tightly knit

2019-10-07 23:44:49 UTC  

Bro

2019-10-07 23:45:00 UTC  

Let me bring the partners in crime argument

2019-10-07 23:45:01 UTC  

Brb

2019-10-07 23:45:17 UTC  

@Deleted User Listen you are still experimenting with your intellectual powers but you need to relax and stop acting like your some overpowered Mega-mind individual that thinks everything you know is right and if anyone dare to argue against it must be refuted. Everything you are saying isn't true its expressed because that just what you believe in and i respect that. Don't argue with people and try to drown out the conversation by saying they are wrong.

2019-10-07 23:45:19 UTC  

@pennypal Philosophy paves the way more science, it's that simple.

2019-10-07 23:45:44 UTC  

So then we decide who is immoral and guilty according to marjority rules?

2019-10-07 23:45:50 UTC  

King if you don't get out this channel I'm going to send an even stronger argument

2019-10-07 23:45:54 UTC  

Philosophy is the "why" and science is the "this is why".

2019-10-07 23:46:00 UTC  

I’ve yet to hear an argument for an objective morality which holds up to scrutiny. The most convincing objective moralities stem from a belief in theism, and I don’t think someone can empirically prove the existence of a God, they can only rationalize it’s existence, so it’s insufficient for asserting that all should follow that particular moral code. @Deleted User

2019-10-07 23:46:00 UTC  

GG @fuck12moredeadcops, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-10-07 23:46:24 UTC  

You heard an argument for subjective morality that holds up?

2019-10-07 23:46:26 UTC  

There is no objectiely "correct" thought.

2019-10-07 23:46:33 UTC  

There.

2019-10-07 23:46:33 UTC  

That’s the other option. @pennypal

2019-10-07 23:46:38 UTC  

And people certainly assert morality

2019-10-07 23:46:44 UTC  

Either it’s objective or subjective

2019-10-07 23:46:46 UTC  

It’s not neither

2019-10-07 23:46:51 UTC  

All ofour thoughts are from emotions, experiences, and relations.

2019-10-07 23:46:54 UTC  

@fuck12moredeadcops

1) If there are no moral facts, there are no epistemic facts
2) There are epistemic facts
3) Therefore, there are moral facts

2019-10-07 23:46:58 UTC  

If it's subjective it's not moral... Objective morality can be situational though

2019-10-07 23:46:58 UTC  

GG @pennypal, you just advanced to level 5!

2019-10-07 23:47:14 UTC  

@pennypal Explain.

2019-10-07 23:47:28 UTC  

Why would it be impossible to have epistemic facts without moral facts?

2019-10-07 23:47:49 UTC  

@pennypal Give me an example of an objectively moral action.

2019-10-07 23:48:05 UTC  

It should be simple, right?

2019-10-07 23:48:09 UTC  

Good question and it's one which I can't explain in a paragraph. So either we have to vc tomorrow or I can give you a book to read.