you don't need to dodge it with playing the word games "oh is it this-and-that-ism?!"

biblical apocryphal means in the vulgate but not the hebrew books

Daniel isn't in the Hebrew bible?

and my favorite word as kid, Septuagint

muh septuagint lmao

Vulgate and Septuagint, but not in the Hebrew books IIRC

the best meme I've heard was "greek temple scroll"

Daniel is in the Hebrew bible

therefore not apocryphal like Sophie said

Daniel and Ezra are weird because they are not completely in hebrew

what was it aramaic?

I thought some chunk was in aramaic but I get that mixed up\

some parts of those two were

i went to Catholic school k-12, but went to a public univ

primarily for the chicks, it was a mistake

Catholics... virtually anything Jesus said to the Pharisees could be said to them

I have met Catholic scholars whom that doesn't pertain to

I wasn't Catholic, just went to Catholic school

I lost my religion at 12 when I started reading Omni Magazine anyway

aha heh

sadly most religion despises the truth

and therefore conceptually despises Christ who is truth itself

the word of God is truth

scrolling up, daniel has portions that are considered apocryphal

what ,the portions that need to be considered as such because they predicted the future?

Well, it's part of the split between Catholicism and Protestantism as well

neither of them can get the basics right though

how can they expect to teach lawlessness and be considered anything but the lowest in the kingdom of heaven

It's like half of 3 chapters and 1 whole chapter something like that

not sure the content, one is the Manasseh one though

```The prayer is considered apocryphal by Jews, Catholics and Protestants. It was placed at the end of 2 Chronicles in the late 4th-century Vulgate. Over a millennium later, Martin Luther included the book in his 74-book translation of the Bible. It was part of the 1537 Matthew Bible, and the 1599 Geneva Bible. It also appears in the Apocrypha of the King James Bible and of the original 1609/1610 Douai Rheims Bible. Pope Clement VIII included the prayer in an appendix to the Vulgate stating that it should continue to be read "lest it perish entirely".```

neat

So to Orthodox it is canonical

everybody forgets about their stuff over here

to a certain degree I don't really pay attention tbh... maybe what I do isn't technically ackshually #realtheology but then what else am I supposed to call it

I take a claim about the God of Israel, I look at what the texts say and see if it's true or not

if somebody makes enough false claims they're talking about some other God 🤷 one that should be rejected

Lol imagine living in the Internet age and still being religious

It really does boggle my mind

You have access to everything we have known - yet you choose to put your "faith" in the tiniest sliver.

I genuinely don't believe that religious people should have the right to vote. First of all, it shows a fundamental lack of rational/logical thinking - which is presumably one of the main reasons we don't let children and clinically insane people vote.