Message from @Platinum Spark
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If you’re going to ignore the historical context you can’t really talk about theology
What is and isn’t in the Bible is a series of political decisions made in the late Roman Empire and the century or so that followed
well no I mean if their axioms are dead wrong I don't really care to pay that close of attention to the rest
I mean, they were the ones who decided what Jesus said and what he didn’t
So it’s hard to say their axioms were “dead wrong”
we have a copy of the Tanakh from before Christ and it proves at least the Jewish Bible is virtually 100% unchanged except for the reason they had a burial for that particular copy which is one line added to a psalm
the rest is identical
What’s an example of a dead wrong axiom
The psalms are not in the tanakh
Er worry
... yes they are
*sorry, meant Torah
Tanach is Torah (Pentateuch) and Ha Novi (the prophets)
The Tanakh has been changed
The apocalypse of Abraham, for instance, is not in the tanakh
That was a political decision
well no it's pretty identical to the dead sea scrolls
and yeah we have different canons like the book of Maccabees
not in Tanakh
Is Alexander the Great mentioned in any Abrahamic texts?
Daniel predicts some pretty important figures in history
I think that's why people conclude it must have been a forgery
Yeah, because Daniel was written quite late
Not forgery, just apocryphal
not apocryphal if its in the canon
Daniel is in Ha Novi the prophets
That’s not what apocryphal means
In religious contexts
It can be apocryphal and canon
k, Daniel is part of the Tanakh regardless
Ok, you don’t know theology enough to discuss this
nah I just don't play these silly word games lol
Or don’t know the history well enough I guess
Idk, no word game here
Just not interesting to talk to someone who isn’t interested in answering important theological questions about the nature of Christ
Like, pretty basic stuff here for a theologin to have some view on
But as ever you’d rather go on a tangent and dodge the question than have a legitimate discussion
I’m going back to the other channel.
oh no the nature of christ is made pretty clear regardless of word games
you don't need to dodge it with playing the word games "oh is it this-and-that-ism?!"