Message from @Platinum Spark
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*divine and mortal
well Christ comes in the flesh on many occasions, the Tanakh is full of Moshiah
Did he have one nature or 2?
Jesus I mean
well this is where things get tricy, and you say "quoting bible verses isn't proving your point" but that's what we need as an axiom here
Do you know what monophysitism is?
Ezekiel 17: 1Now the word of the Lord came to me saying, 2 “Son of man, propound a riddle and speak a parable to the house of Israel
Yeshua considers himself "son of man" on many occasions, the word of God comes through sons of men just like it does the prophet Ezekiel here
We’re talking about Jesus though
haven't heard that one yet but I'm aware of some of the other heresies
yeah that's Yeshua
Not asking for proof here, just asking for your beliefs
but it gets a little more complex than that because this is a greek story
So you consider Monophysitism a heresy?
Do you know what the fundamental difference is between Catholicism and orthodoxy?
not that interested in the precepts of men tbh
they find something that works for them I don't knock it but they're not gonna get far if they ignore fundamentals
“The precepts of men”
I?
yeah people worship the ways of humans instead of the Moshiah
If you’re going to ignore the historical context you can’t really talk about theology
What is and isn’t in the Bible is a series of political decisions made in the late Roman Empire and the century or so that followed
well no I mean if their axioms are dead wrong I don't really care to pay that close of attention to the rest
I mean, they were the ones who decided what Jesus said and what he didn’t
So it’s hard to say their axioms were “dead wrong”
we have a copy of the Tanakh from before Christ and it proves at least the Jewish Bible is virtually 100% unchanged except for the reason they had a burial for that particular copy which is one line added to a psalm
the rest is identical
What’s an example of a dead wrong axiom
The psalms are not in the tanakh
Er worry
... yes they are
*sorry, meant Torah
Tanach is Torah (Pentateuch) and Ha Novi (the prophets)
The Tanakh has been changed
The apocalypse of Abraham, for instance, is not in the tanakh
That was a political decision
well no it's pretty identical to the dead sea scrolls
and yeah we have different canons like the book of Maccabees
not in Tanakh
Is Alexander the Great mentioned in any Abrahamic texts?
No I don’t believe so
Daniel predicts some pretty important figures in history