Message from @Sauropithicus
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A third of the pages are footnotes anyways bc Rothbard was such a crazy ass intellectual
and academic
I'm pretty sure you both have different definitions of capitalism
Capitalism is the abolition of restrictions on trade
private ownership of the means of production
Socialism can exist within capitalism
If the free market finds it more efficient to operate with community owned means of production so be it
so you don't even believe in the free market?
I believe in the free market
Theres nothing anti-capitalist in community owned things
Charity is not anti-capitalist
What ancaps (typically) mean when they use the term capitalism is "a freed market system, a market absent of coercion and aggression"
Yes
Khaine is right
More or less yeah
plus there's no way to have a free market
This definition of capitalism is mutually exclusive with the idea of the state
free market just means the ability of whoever's at the top to screw with whoever's lower
No it doesnt
Give me some evidence for the claim
if you don't have government restrictions over the market
they'll have the ability to do that
>Child Labor was solved by capitalism
the government didnt end child labor
Capitalism did
You can't point to any society that has a state as evidence for X happening in a freed market, as by definition, the freed market cant exist if the state exists
Child labor was solved by the government stepping in and stopping it
No[e
Nope
Also, child labor was already practically non existent by the time the state introduced legislation prohibiting it
Child labor existed all throughout human history until industrialization hit full stride
^
irrelevant argument
And then individuals labor became so much more valuable as a result of the innovations that they could afford for their children not to work
You see this shit with sweatshops in cambodia
Little children working in the sweatshops because the alternative is to starve to fucking death
I carried more weight in textbooks on my back as a kids going school than any slave in the field.
So then they crush the sweatshops?
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So what happens?