Message from @Khaine

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2020-02-14 05:05:08 UTC  

Jihaddist is aggressive

2020-02-14 05:05:19 UTC  

Capitalism isn't natural

2020-02-14 05:05:21 UTC  

Unless someone kills his family or something first

2020-02-14 05:05:24 UTC  

Capitalism is natural

2020-02-14 05:05:50 UTC  

capitalism is unnatural because it unrealistically restricts the states ability to enforce what people want

2020-02-14 05:06:01 UTC  

The state is not the people

2020-02-14 05:06:22 UTC  

Read anatomy of the state and wake the fuck up already, its like 50 short ass pages

2020-02-14 05:06:25 UTC  

the operation of land for one's own interests is only allowed because people allow them

2020-02-14 05:06:34 UTC  

the state isn't the people now but that doesn't have to be the case

2020-02-14 05:06:39 UTC  

A third of the pages are footnotes anyways bc Rothbard was such a crazy ass intellectual

2020-02-14 05:06:44 UTC  

and academic

2020-02-14 05:06:50 UTC  

I'm pretty sure you both have different definitions of capitalism

2020-02-14 05:07:18 UTC  

Capitalism is the abolition of restrictions on trade

2020-02-14 05:07:22 UTC  

private ownership of the means of production

2020-02-14 05:07:25 UTC  

Socialism can exist within capitalism

2020-02-14 05:08:00 UTC  

If the free market finds it more efficient to operate with community owned means of production so be it

2020-02-14 05:08:13 UTC  

so you don't even believe in the free market?

2020-02-14 05:08:25 UTC  

I believe in the free market

2020-02-14 05:08:37 UTC  

Theres nothing anti-capitalist in community owned things

2020-02-14 05:08:42 UTC  

Charity is not anti-capitalist

2020-02-14 05:08:50 UTC  

What ancaps (typically) mean when they use the term capitalism is "a freed market system, a market absent of coercion and aggression"

2020-02-14 05:08:56 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

Khaine is right

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

More or less yeah

2020-02-14 05:09:40 UTC  

plus there's no way to have a free market

2020-02-14 05:09:46 UTC  

This definition of capitalism is mutually exclusive with the idea of the state

2020-02-14 05:09:51 UTC  

free market just means the ability of whoever's at the top to screw with whoever's lower

2020-02-14 05:09:57 UTC  

No it doesnt

2020-02-14 05:10:24 UTC  

Give me some evidence for the claim

2020-02-14 05:10:52 UTC  

Child labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:10:53 UTC  

if you don't have government restrictions over the market

2020-02-14 05:10:58 UTC  

they'll have the ability to do that

2020-02-14 05:11:03 UTC  

>Child Labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:11:11 UTC  

the government didnt end child labor

2020-02-14 05:11:14 UTC  

Capitalism did

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

You can't point to any society that has a state as evidence for X happening in a freed market, as by definition, the freed market cant exist if the state exists

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

Child labor was solved by the government stepping in and stopping it

2020-02-14 05:11:20 UTC  

No[e

2020-02-14 05:11:21 UTC  

Nope

2020-02-14 05:11:45 UTC  

Also, child labor was already practically non existent by the time the state introduced legislation prohibiting it

2020-02-14 05:11:46 UTC  

Child labor existed all throughout human history until industrialization hit full stride