Message from @Khaine

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2020-02-14 05:08:56 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

Khaine is right

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

More or less yeah

2020-02-14 05:09:40 UTC  

plus there's no way to have a free market

2020-02-14 05:09:46 UTC  

This definition of capitalism is mutually exclusive with the idea of the state

2020-02-14 05:09:51 UTC  

free market just means the ability of whoever's at the top to screw with whoever's lower

2020-02-14 05:09:57 UTC  

No it doesnt

2020-02-14 05:10:24 UTC  

Give me some evidence for the claim

2020-02-14 05:10:52 UTC  

Child labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:10:53 UTC  

if you don't have government restrictions over the market

2020-02-14 05:10:58 UTC  

they'll have the ability to do that

2020-02-14 05:11:03 UTC  

>Child Labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:11:11 UTC  

the government didnt end child labor

2020-02-14 05:11:14 UTC  

Capitalism did

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

You can't point to any society that has a state as evidence for X happening in a freed market, as by definition, the freed market cant exist if the state exists

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

Child labor was solved by the government stepping in and stopping it

2020-02-14 05:11:20 UTC  

No[e

2020-02-14 05:11:21 UTC  

Nope

2020-02-14 05:11:45 UTC  

Also, child labor was already practically non existent by the time the state introduced legislation prohibiting it

2020-02-14 05:11:46 UTC  

Child labor existed all throughout human history until industrialization hit full stride

2020-02-14 05:11:52 UTC  

^

2020-02-14 05:12:01 UTC  

irrelevant argument

2020-02-14 05:12:10 UTC  

And then individuals labor became so much more valuable as a result of the innovations that they could afford for their children not to work

2020-02-14 05:13:09 UTC  

You see this shit with sweatshops in cambodia

2020-02-14 05:13:30 UTC  

Little children working in the sweatshops because the alternative is to starve to fucking death

2020-02-14 05:13:31 UTC  

I carried more weight in textbooks on my back as a kids going school than any slave in the field.

2020-02-14 05:13:42 UTC  

So then they crush the sweatshops?

2020-02-14 05:13:45 UTC  

. *

2020-02-14 05:13:49 UTC  

So what happens?

2020-02-14 05:14:03 UTC  

Children fucking starved to death and children became prostitutes.

2020-02-14 05:14:08 UTC  

little boys and girls

2020-02-14 05:14:15 UTC  

dead and basically raped

2020-02-14 05:14:17 UTC  

why do you have this reformist mindset?

2020-02-14 05:14:20 UTC  

because of government intervention

2020-02-14 05:14:32 UTC  

I don't want to implement socialism through reform I want a complete change

2020-02-14 05:14:37 UTC  

Abolitionist mindset *

2020-02-14 05:14:40 UTC  

I don't want to make the capitalists better I want to kill them

2020-02-14 05:14:51 UTC  

It sucks to be a kid wanting to make some money working at the snowball stand.

2020-02-14 05:14:52 UTC  

I want the fucking state gone thats it

2020-02-14 05:14:59 UTC  

We already know that

2020-02-14 05:15:08 UTC  

How is that "reformist"