Message from @Sauropithicus

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2020-02-14 05:04:58 UTC  

Anarchism is not the belief in the abolition of hierarchy, archos means ruler. Hierarchies are natural creations that when the world is left to itself, it is sorted out into

2020-02-14 05:05:08 UTC  

Jihaddist is aggressive

2020-02-14 05:05:19 UTC  

Capitalism isn't natural

2020-02-14 05:05:21 UTC  

Unless someone kills his family or something first

2020-02-14 05:05:24 UTC  

Capitalism is natural

2020-02-14 05:05:50 UTC  

capitalism is unnatural because it unrealistically restricts the states ability to enforce what people want

2020-02-14 05:06:01 UTC  

The state is not the people

2020-02-14 05:06:22 UTC  

Read anatomy of the state and wake the fuck up already, its like 50 short ass pages

2020-02-14 05:06:25 UTC  

the operation of land for one's own interests is only allowed because people allow them

2020-02-14 05:06:34 UTC  

the state isn't the people now but that doesn't have to be the case

2020-02-14 05:06:39 UTC  

A third of the pages are footnotes anyways bc Rothbard was such a crazy ass intellectual

2020-02-14 05:06:44 UTC  

and academic

2020-02-14 05:06:50 UTC  

I'm pretty sure you both have different definitions of capitalism

2020-02-14 05:07:18 UTC  

Capitalism is the abolition of restrictions on trade

2020-02-14 05:07:22 UTC  

private ownership of the means of production

2020-02-14 05:07:25 UTC  

Socialism can exist within capitalism

2020-02-14 05:08:00 UTC  

If the free market finds it more efficient to operate with community owned means of production so be it

2020-02-14 05:08:13 UTC  

so you don't even believe in the free market?

2020-02-14 05:08:25 UTC  

I believe in the free market

2020-02-14 05:08:37 UTC  

Theres nothing anti-capitalist in community owned things

2020-02-14 05:08:42 UTC  

Charity is not anti-capitalist

2020-02-14 05:08:50 UTC  

What ancaps (typically) mean when they use the term capitalism is "a freed market system, a market absent of coercion and aggression"

2020-02-14 05:08:56 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

Khaine is right

2020-02-14 05:09:05 UTC  

More or less yeah

2020-02-14 05:09:40 UTC  

plus there's no way to have a free market

2020-02-14 05:09:46 UTC  

This definition of capitalism is mutually exclusive with the idea of the state

2020-02-14 05:09:51 UTC  

free market just means the ability of whoever's at the top to screw with whoever's lower

2020-02-14 05:09:57 UTC  

No it doesnt

2020-02-14 05:10:24 UTC  

Give me some evidence for the claim

2020-02-14 05:10:52 UTC  

Child labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:10:53 UTC  

if you don't have government restrictions over the market

2020-02-14 05:10:58 UTC  

they'll have the ability to do that

2020-02-14 05:11:03 UTC  

>Child Labor was solved by capitalism

2020-02-14 05:11:11 UTC  

the government didnt end child labor

2020-02-14 05:11:14 UTC  

Capitalism did

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

You can't point to any society that has a state as evidence for X happening in a freed market, as by definition, the freed market cant exist if the state exists

2020-02-14 05:11:16 UTC  

Child labor was solved by the government stepping in and stopping it

2020-02-14 05:11:20 UTC  

No[e

2020-02-14 05:11:21 UTC  

Nope

2020-02-14 05:11:45 UTC  

Also, child labor was already practically non existent by the time the state introduced legislation prohibiting it