Message from @MVPC
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@Cobra Commander Ok, I think I am, but I'll give you that one. If you could explain why though, that would be helpful. The law of biogenesis goes against it though.
Nor does it violate the law of biogenesis since this law disproves spontaneous generation (as in, complex life appearing from literally nothing), not a procedural process in which inorganic compounds become amino acids, which from there can become more advanced structures (relatively speaking) that gradually become more complex until finally leading to actual cells and RNA (possibly with an outside catalyst though, like lightening or volcanic activity). Read about the Miller-Urey Experiment and Proteinoids.
The Law of Thermodynamics means that in an isolated system energy and organization decreases over time, and I assume you believe the Earth is an isolated system. It's not, all life on the planet is ultimately based off of solar energy.
Which is an external influence.
Ah!
Mee6 deleted my message!
It said "I shouldn't post the same thing over and over again", but I didn't!
@Cobra Commander The law of bio-genesis doesn't say that life can't be created from "literally nothing". It says that life can only be produced by life.
I had a much better response, but Mee6 deleted it because it thought I posted it before even though I didn't
Also, you're right. The second law of thermodynamics doesn't work in this circumstance. I was thinking of something else
It's a different logical path that brought me to the conclusion of God
@Yusa how can you tell the difference between god's intervention or that of a timeless, interdimensional computer?
You effectively just repeated what I said in regards to biogenesis and left out the rest of my explanation
Argh! Mee6 did it again
<@&508200811625447449> Why is Mee6 deleting my post?
Too long probably.
Partition it.
Oh, ok
Although I don't see how it could be too long...
Yea
It looks semi-long.
Why do I get a notification for mod pings
@Cobra Commander Alright, I'm going to break this post up into section so that Mee6 won't get mad
So, I responded to your points twice, but mee6 deleted both of those posts. The way biogenesis was proved shows that spontaneous generation of life is false.
In an experiment, Louis Pasteur made a liquid broth of nutrient-rich material such as chicken broth and put it in a flask that had a curved neck
I know that spontaneous generation was disproved, and I explained how the process to the cell is most likely procedural instead of immediate; that is not spontaneous generation. I already told you to look up the Miller-Urey experiment and the creation of Proteinoids, it's interesting stuff.
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Idk why it keeps saying duplicated text
> The curved neck allowed air to reach the infusion, but because microorganisms are heavier than air, any microorganisms present would be trapped at the bottom of the curve.
> When Pasteur repeated some experiments Needham (Experiments that Needham thought proved spontaneous generation) had done in the curved flask, no microorganisms appeared.
> In a final blow, Pasteur even showed that if you tipped the flask once to allow any microorganisms that might be trapped to fall into the infusion, microorganisms would appear in the infusion.
> Thus, Pasteur showed that even microorganisms cannot spontaneously generate.
Ok
It all has to be that short?
Well, anyways.
@Cobra Commander That experiment doesn't prove anything about life coming from non-life
I genuinely don't see how you aren't getting my point
TLDR knowing why life exists is irrelevant
ultimately true