Message from @Vlad

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2020-02-18 22:34:26 UTC  

It does not violate the second law of thermodynamics

2020-02-18 22:34:30 UTC  

were found in hydrothermal vents.

2020-02-18 22:34:34 UTC  

I don't think you understand that law

2020-02-18 22:34:35 UTC  

Why there?

2020-02-18 22:36:47 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Ok, I think I am, but I'll give you that one. If you could explain why though, that would be helpful. The law of biogenesis goes against it though.

2020-02-18 22:50:57 UTC  

Nor does it violate the law of biogenesis since this law disproves spontaneous generation (as in, complex life appearing from literally nothing), not a procedural process in which inorganic compounds become amino acids, which from there can become more advanced structures (relatively speaking) that gradually become more complex until finally leading to actual cells and RNA (possibly with an outside catalyst though, like lightening or volcanic activity). Read about the Miller-Urey Experiment and Proteinoids.

2020-02-18 22:56:47 UTC  

The Law of Thermodynamics means that in an isolated system energy and organization decreases over time, and I assume you believe the Earth is an isolated system. It's not, all life on the planet is ultimately based off of solar energy.

2020-02-18 22:57:04 UTC  

Which is an external influence.

2020-02-18 23:08:12 UTC  

Ah!

2020-02-18 23:08:21 UTC  

Mee6 deleted my message!

2020-02-18 23:08:45 UTC  

It said "I shouldn't post the same thing over and over again", but I didn't!

2020-02-18 23:10:37 UTC  

@Cobra Commander The law of bio-genesis doesn't say that life can't be created from "literally nothing". It says that life can only be produced by life.

2020-02-18 23:11:07 UTC  

I had a much better response, but Mee6 deleted it because it thought I posted it before even though I didn't

2020-02-18 23:12:27 UTC  

Also, you're right. The second law of thermodynamics doesn't work in this circumstance. I was thinking of something else

2020-02-18 23:13:14 UTC  

It's a different logical path that brought me to the conclusion of God

2020-02-18 23:14:19 UTC  

@Yusa how can you tell the difference between god's intervention or that of a timeless, interdimensional computer?

2020-02-18 23:21:13 UTC  

You effectively just repeated what I said in regards to biogenesis and left out the rest of my explanation

2020-02-18 23:27:49 UTC  

Argh! Mee6 did it again

2020-02-18 23:28:14 UTC  

<@&508200811625447449> Why is Mee6 deleting my post?

2020-02-18 23:28:25 UTC  

Too long probably.

2020-02-18 23:28:28 UTC  

Partition it.

2020-02-18 23:28:34 UTC  

Oh, ok

2020-02-18 23:29:03 UTC  

Although I don't see how it could be too long...

2020-02-18 23:29:05 UTC  

Yea

2020-02-18 23:29:17 UTC  

Idk why itโ€™s deleting it

2020-02-18 23:29:31 UTC  

It looks semi-long.

2020-02-18 23:30:42 UTC  

Why do I get a notification for mod pings

2020-02-18 23:31:30 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Alright, I'm going to break this post up into section so that Mee6 won't get mad

So, I responded to your points twice, but mee6 deleted both of those posts. The way biogenesis was proved shows that spontaneous generation of life is false.

2020-02-18 23:32:54 UTC  

In an experiment, Louis Pasteur made a liquid broth of nutrient-rich material such as chicken broth and put it in a flask that had a curved neck

2020-02-18 23:34:36 UTC  

I know that spontaneous generation was disproved, and I explained how the process to the cell is most likely procedural instead of immediate; that is not spontaneous generation. I already told you to look up the Miller-Urey experiment and the creation of Proteinoids, it's interesting stuff.

2020-02-18 23:34:59 UTC  

-unmute @Yusa

2020-02-18 23:35:00 UTC  

๐Ÿ”Š Unmuted `Yusa#7538`

2020-02-18 23:35:31 UTC  

Idk why it keeps saying duplicated text

2020-02-18 23:36:02 UTC  

> The curved neck allowed air to reach the infusion, but because microorganisms are heavier than air, any microorganisms present would be trapped at the bottom of the curve.

2020-02-18 23:36:04 UTC  

> When Pasteur repeated some experiments Needham (Experiments that Needham thought proved spontaneous generation) had done in the curved flask, no microorganisms appeared.

2020-02-18 23:36:19 UTC  

> In a final blow, Pasteur even showed that if you tipped the flask once to allow any microorganisms that might be trapped to fall into the infusion, microorganisms would appear in the infusion.

2020-02-18 23:36:28 UTC  

> Thus, Pasteur showed that even microorganisms cannot spontaneously generate.

2020-02-18 23:36:35 UTC  

Like this, @Yusa.

2020-02-18 23:36:40 UTC  

Ok

2020-02-18 23:36:47 UTC  

It all has to be that short?

2020-02-18 23:37:04 UTC  

Well, anyways.