Message from @Komrade Kam
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its dead
you cant revive
The fetus prior to brain activity is as alive as a germ
This...is a hypothetical, lol
WE kill germs all the time
previously, that human has survived, so it's not a fair comparison
brain death is not recoverable
but its not realistic
that human has the capability to survive outside its mother's womb
thats what we're going by
So the criteria for whether a fetus is alive or not is the exact minute it has brain activity and whether or not it can survive outside the womb?
Your logical trap doesnt apply. Of course we would be hypocrites under your nonexistant hypothetical but that does not prove anything because it does not happen
Before those points it's entirely acceptable to kill it, but it isn't killing because it "isn't alive"?
Yes
yes
yes
If I throw a rock have I killed it??
murder = killing something that IS alive
I guess this is where we end the discussion, no matter what I do I cannot change your moral views on an issue
But, it isn't a debate about science, lmao
It's a moral debate first and foremost on what criteria you use to perceive life, or if potential life is enough over actual life
you tried lol its fine
"Yeetus that fetus" - My hero
but if you believe in science is right then science is related
GG @thomas the choo choo tree, you just advanced to level 5!
Morality isn;t objective so it has to be scientific
Otherwise you can't prove anything
its so wrong to take away the rights of an actual living being because of "the potential of a life"
Morality is nothing but some bullshit taught to you as a child so you don't shove the girl you like
I truly believe that 50 years from now, we're going to look back on widespread abortion the same way we do on lobotomies and electroshock therapy. Science is not a tool for moral right or wrong, because science does not determine whether potential life is enough or not. Science tells you how and why things work, not if it's ok they do so
pro lifers = absolute moralists
pro choicers = relative moralists
Morality is just bullshit, right man. You have a good day.
It is
lol i disagree on that
how did this become a salt battle lol
science proves stuff
If you truly believe that then, wow. There is a point in a discussion where somebody is so radically different that finding common ground is impossible
we did find common ground