Message from @thomas the choo choo tree
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@Deleted User That's a new born child not an aborted child
wait is it like in womb or like
late term abortions exist
Not that late my dude
not like late abortion
like earlier ones
as billcat said, we're addressing the majority
Doctors examining the patient will conduct a battery of tests to determine whether any brain activity is present. If all brain activity is absent, the patient is dead.
If an indvidual is brain dead
they should be killed
That was literally a premature baby, not an abortion.
yes
During 2012, 92% of abortions were performed before 14 weeks' gestation, 6% between 14–20 weeks, and 2% (n=96) at a later stage.
"No. The brain will never recover when it dies. Since the patient has already been declared dead, removing the machine (which is artificially pumping air into the lungs) cannot cause further harm or death."
The brain doesnt come back
Brain activity can be regained after loss, yes. It's incredibly rare but it does occur. What I say, specifically was if you know a person will be 100% recovered in several months, meaning normal brain activity, would it be moral to kill them?
its dead
so saying that they might recover is not a thing
its dead
The fetus prior to brain activity is as alive as a germ
This...is a hypothetical, lol
WE kill germs all the time
previously, that human has survived, so it's not a fair comparison
brain death is not recoverable
but its not realistic
that human has the capability to survive outside its mother's womb
thats what we're going by
So the criteria for whether a fetus is alive or not is the exact minute it has brain activity and whether or not it can survive outside the womb?
Your logical trap doesnt apply. Of course we would be hypocrites under your nonexistant hypothetical but that does not prove anything because it does not happen
Before those points it's entirely acceptable to kill it, but it isn't killing because it "isn't alive"?
Yes
yes
yes
If I throw a rock have I killed it??
murder = killing something that IS alive
I guess this is where we end the discussion, no matter what I do I cannot change your moral views on an issue
I'm sorry you reject science
But, it isn't a debate about science, lmao