But by your scientific definition it would be

not that late

but that makes no sense

when she knows she is pregnant

just abort

it takes a toll physically and mentally

late term abortions are wrong

I'm just asking a hypothetical to challenge your standpoint, that's all

and trying to recover after being raped while being pregnant is nono

If a woman is raped, and she, for whatever reason, is not able to seek an abortion before your definition of life begins, is it killing to abort the baby? @ashnaa

why would she not be able to seek abortion

This is why I dislike speaking in outliers, because they just get further and further off the rails and never promote the discussion

Maybe a woman is held captive, raped, and rescued after that point?

she was still raped

There was a lady here in ohio who was held captive for 13 years and gave birth numerous times during it, so it does happen

So it's then ok to kill this baby that you yourself have deemed scientifically alive?

wait what

GG @thomas the choo choo tree, you just advanced to level 6!

alive then no

before alive then yea

Well yea, I'm just trying to logically challenge your viewpoint of using the mother's psyschological state as a deciding factor

oh ok

I'm just using a hypothetical of, for whatever circumstances, the mother who is raped (let's say she was held captive) is rescued, and it is discovered she has been pregnant long enough for the baby to be considered scientifically alive. Would it be ok for an abortion?

and then you said no, so i'd ask why?

ohh

because then it actually would be murder

but i mean it's a blurry line for me

yea its ok

Yea, like I said, that's why I strongly dislike these incredible outliers

they show where you draw the line tho

GG @ashnaa, you just advanced to level 8!

so i think they're important

imo they should abort cuz it has a bigger impact on the lady than the child born

wdym

who's "they"

lke

the lady

person

Fair enough I suppose. For me, remaining morally consistent is a key component of having a stable world view, because if you can't keep your morals consistent, what do you have to base anything at all off of?

rape victims?

yea