There was a lady here in ohio who was held captive for 13 years and gave birth numerous times during it, so it does happen

So it's then ok to kill this baby that you yourself have deemed scientifically alive?

wait what

GG @thomas the choo choo tree, you just advanced to level 6!

alive then no

before alive then yea

Well yea, I'm just trying to logically challenge your viewpoint of using the mother's psyschological state as a deciding factor

oh ok

I'm just using a hypothetical of, for whatever circumstances, the mother who is raped (let's say she was held captive) is rescued, and it is discovered she has been pregnant long enough for the baby to be considered scientifically alive. Would it be ok for an abortion?

and then you said no, so i'd ask why?

ohh

because then it actually would be murder

but i mean it's a blurry line for me

yea its ok

Yea, like I said, that's why I strongly dislike these incredible outliers

they show where you draw the line tho

GG @ashnaa, you just advanced to level 8!

so i think they're important

imo they should abort cuz it has a bigger impact on the lady than the child born

wdym

who's "they"

lke

the lady

person

Fair enough I suppose. For me, remaining morally consistent is a key component of having a stable world view, because if you can't keep your morals consistent, what do you have to base anything at all off of?

rape victims?

yea

yeah our morals should be consistent

You can't really base everything you do off of science, unlike Komrade claims, because then we would just live in the most efficient way scientifically possible and act on instinct

science and morals both factor into our choices

We would eat nutrient paste, have babies, and work more to further these goals

Exactly

ok well

im gonna go sleep

bye

@ashnaa how can u b a feminist and an MRA and a capitalist

Feminisem dosnt work with those 2

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idk, i identify with the definition of feminism where i want gender equality, so mens rights are equally as important as womens'

and idealistically, neither capitalism, communism or socialism are great, but i personally think the capitalist system is slightly better? its like choosing between a rock and a hard place

i get why mens rights' activists think feminism is geared towards women too much, and i agree to an extent