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Lol Electric Pence at it again

How retarded do you have to be to deprive little kids of parents because you have faith that God doesn't like gays

Yeah that's fucked

Wow that can only end badly

It should become the only legally permissible way to give birth

That's like something that would be in Idiocracy

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@Vlad it's complicated. I think some are autogynophiles, I think some are cynics that are just taking trolling too far, some do have gender dysphoria

I do not think transwomen are women, I prefer calling them Trans-identitfying-males. I think women's hard-won rights should be respected and their situation and feelings also taken into account. We can't throw 50% of the popultion under the bus becasue 0.05% of people want to invade their spaces

So, to you, what does it mean when organizations like the APA do not classify transgenderism as a mental illness due to the high number of transgender people who do not experience any problems with their condition?

Is that a simple case of the APA falling to soak leftist political pressure then?

No idea on the last questin, I assume they are correct on the first. I don't think it has to be a mental ilness to still be in conflict with the politics of female identity

There is the issue of whether or not it is mental healthy to look down at a male body and see a female, some from angles, the trans issue might be judging the APA rather than the APA judging the trans issue

I do think some of the tests given, espeically to children, are more about gender stereotypes than mental health

So, the APA has crumbled under pressure of the trans community, and has decided that there are enough excuses for them to label their condition as a non-mental illness?

Is that the idea?

I am simply trying to understand why is it so impossible for it not to be a mental illness when there are experts in the field who say that it isn't.

Are they all super corrupt, paid-for, hyper leftist stooges that they cannot possibly be onto something there?

I read a study recently, according to which trans people were born with a naturally underdeveloped NR3C4s, which later on translates directly into gender-related issues whilst having absolutely no other influence on the lives of those people whatsoever.

Is that just bs that someone made up?

I am trying to understand how you guys do things on the other side of the ocean.

I didnt' say any of that in your first paragraph there

Yeah, ofc.

I am just asking.

Because to deny everything the APA says, naturally, there's got to be a reason, right?

```I am simply trying to understand why is it so impossible for it not to be a mental illness when there are experts in the field who say that it isn't.```

like what do you mean there

What I mean is this: why is it impossible for transgenderism NOT to be a mental illness if experts in the field say that it isn't?

There is corruption in any organization, and there have been people digging into the financial angles of the TRA Movement, including the drug companies that make the hormones, etc

Yeah.

The RadFems say it's the last gasp of patriarchy, lots of angles

Those organizations take a firm stand on it, but I wouldn't say America as a whole has even come close to one, except for affirming everybody has 'human rights'

Right.

The RadFems blame the right for TRAs, the right laughs at that and says "we warned you this would happen vis-a-vis gays and slippery slope"

So, how would you determine if this is an actual mental disorder if you had to?

Partly, it would be N/A for me because I reject the idea of 'gender' as transgender politics use the term entirely