Message from @lemonsaw

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2019-05-02 01:13:57 UTC  

So

2019-05-02 01:14:02 UTC  

Do you agree with affirmative action?

2019-05-02 01:14:09 UTC  

Yes.

2019-05-02 01:14:33 UTC  

and if those two following premises were true:

2019-05-02 01:14:41 UTC  

IQ is based 100% on genetics

2019-05-02 01:14:49 UTC  

There is a IQ difference between race

2019-05-02 01:14:52 UTC  

No, it's absolutely not.

2019-05-02 01:14:57 UTC  

Im saying if it were true

2019-05-02 01:14:58 UTC  

That's not how fucking science works

2019-05-02 01:15:10 UTC  

or epistemology.

2019-05-02 01:15:16 UTC  

Let's say you accept the premises

2019-05-02 01:15:22 UTC  

I dont

2019-05-02 01:15:34 UTC  

Im just trying to isolate the part where we disagree

2019-05-02 01:15:42 UTC  

that's why im making an hypothetical

2019-05-02 01:15:46 UTC  

OK

2019-05-02 01:15:49 UTC  

Let's just say they were true

2019-05-02 01:15:57 UTC  

Why would we speak in hypotheticals...

2019-05-02 01:15:58 UTC  

Would you still agree with Affirmative action

2019-05-02 01:16:10 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-02 01:16:15 UTC  

Why

2019-05-02 01:16:36 UTC  

Assuming the premises are true

2019-05-02 01:16:40 UTC  

Because it'd aid in providing extra knowledge to those who otherwise would be a burden on the system

2019-05-02 01:16:48 UTC  

and would allow them to function in society.

2019-05-02 01:16:56 UTC  

But you are stopping people with more potential achieve better

2019-05-02 01:17:05 UTC  

Make more classrooms

2019-05-02 01:17:09 UTC  

or more universities.

2019-05-02 01:17:15 UTC  

Then you're not advocating for affirmative action

2019-05-02 01:17:44 UTC  

I am, I'm advocating for the advantaging of certain groups of people on a political basis.

2019-05-02 01:18:08 UTC  

Because they have a disadvantage in society

2019-05-02 01:18:11 UTC  

Right?

2019-05-02 01:18:15 UTC  

I'm saying black people will have to go through things irrespective of their IQ's, in which, would make it harder for them to make it through school

2019-05-02 01:18:38 UTC  

and as such, I'd use the admissions process as a means of equalization due to this.

2019-05-02 01:19:00 UTC  

They're not really

2019-05-02 01:19:05 UTC  

if IQ is based on genetic

2019-05-02 01:19:29 UTC  

As mean as it sounds, it would just mean they're dumbed and can't achieve as much

2019-05-02 01:19:32 UTC  

You can have IQ be genetic and still recognize that black people are treated unfairly.

2019-05-02 01:19:41 UTC  

How

2019-05-02 01:19:54 UTC  

No I actually wouldn't be for affirmative action if "black people" were factually inferior mentally. Because its not other race's fault for their genetic inferiority. However, all of that is bullshit because black people, if black people are defined by the color of their skin and not their ethnic background or dna, have no evidence supporting their mental inferiority.

2019-05-02 01:20:15 UTC  

A low IQ white person wouldn't be disenfranchised as much as a low IQ black person

2019-05-02 01:20:21 UTC  

This is unfair treatment