Alright, I will respond questioning each once more. I'll stop doing this after I learn enough to be on level of explanation

1: I want you to define how this *community as a whole* operates the Means of Production. Moreover, what are the means of production? Socialism is an economic ideology, it is not concerned with class warfare, that is a different subset of ideas.
In Communism, people are not paid. Wage labor is not eliminated in Socialism and eventually turns into a Communist Society

I will continue over a period of time. Just flipping back and forth between convos

Why? Just why? Just debate what you see lol please I just wanted a quick debate lol

But the last I do agree with Socialism is the road to Communism

@Synth

What do you mean?

I want a coherent debate.

Not one where you'll just say things like *Socialism is x* and have no idea what that means.

This is a useless conversation

Lol, you have not debated any of my claims about socialism you’ve literally spent the entire time asking what socialism is, I’d expect you’d know as a self proclaimed socialist. I just want a debate not a fucking socialism paper report

I've copied down my half written response to tell you this

Debates which are for fun, are useless and not worth having

You haven't the slightest clue what Socialism even is besides a dictionary, nor have you read anything on it

Which was a Socialist explaining the idea

You've maybe read on critiques which didn't even apply to it. So, I ask rudimentary things so we can actually learn

If you don't like learning, don't debate.

No? Debates can easily be fun, I can debate you on fucking religion it can still be fun, but you wouldn’t usually ask a Muslim, Describe Christianity, what denomination, what sector, what Council,

I’m responding to the fun thing before you go on a full 7 paragraph essay

Then we will not debate. Debates in my view are too learn something. If you cannot handle taking time to explain your specific ideas, we will end up getting nowhere. trust me, i've debated more than 100 people who think EXACTLY what you do. And they ended up being just as clueless because they were too stuck on one idea which wasn't even related to my beliefs nor any other like me.

I have given you my views on socialism, the entire point is to learn right? Then fucking debate them,

Last I checked, I did respond to the first point. Which, for one, your response to that and any ideas is essential for the other 2.

And bro this ain’t a who’s got the bigger count, I’ve debated fascists, Ive debated Muslims, I’ve debated Catholics, Feminists, Men’s right activists, it’s not about how many, it’s if you can actually debate them

And ffs, you're so lost. You do not seem to get it. I do not want to spend an entire debate explaining basic concepts to you. hence why I ask, see response, decide if I need to ask more

Right, and I can guarantee you left with the same view each time mostly because you didn't even know what they were talking about

GG @Synth, you just advanced to level 2!

You can do the same as I

And dude it’s 2 in the fucking morning I just wanted a quick fucking debate? Then you went on a descriptive essay,

And dude, religion and politics are my thing, of course I left with the same views, you act like someone changes every debate they have. This ain’t a paradise where people have to believe what you do. I’m going to have the same views because they couldn’t give a decent answer to the things I said, what part of debate do you not understand

based

@Techpriest what)

Capitalism is better because Karl Marx was literally an incel

Lmao

who didn't understand that people already had individual ownership to the means of production

(Lol

Well

The oldest profession in the world: Prostitution had women owning (individually) their means of production (body)

Capitalism did have a fuck up back then but it great now

Marx literally btfo

Multiple fuck ups

When he told me that the lower class would throw away their chains and rise up against their revolts

Bernie can sell a fucking book on hating capitalism and make money via capitalism

``` I’m going to have the same views because they couldn’t give a decent answer to the things I said, what part of debate do you not understand```
I doubt this a bit. I don't want a quick debate. I want a coherent one. If you just want some quick back and forth, I don't care to participate.