It is only the middle class that has disposable income to start storing away ammunition and means to a revolution that starts to revolt.

The lower class at this time when the middle class begins to revolt is nothing more than a mindless drone.

He only fights for whomever can protect him.

Whether it is the status quo or the counter-status quo.

Capitalism better the Socialism

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@Deleted User I will need some rudimentary questions to be answered. You may do the same.

1. What is Socialism/Communism? Define both the best you can so I know where to begin.
2. What are their issues? (I assume this should be a long portion. Provide all explanations and arguments for this)
3. Why is Capitalism better?

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1 a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole (socialism) a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. (Communism) (from dictionary cuz I’m lazy like that)

2. Socialism keeps people in poverty, Socialism can and will most likely be ruled by an Authoritarian/ Totalitarian dictator, You earn the same as everyone else

3. Capitalism helps people out of poverty, Capitialism makes the way for Democratic systems of government, you get rewarded for hard work, not being paid as everyone else,

@Synth

Alright, I will respond questioning each once more. I'll stop doing this after I learn enough to be on level of explanation

1: I want you to define how this *community as a whole* operates the Means of Production. Moreover, what are the means of production? Socialism is an economic ideology, it is not concerned with class warfare, that is a different subset of ideas.
In Communism, people are not paid. Wage labor is not eliminated in Socialism and eventually turns into a Communist Society

I will continue over a period of time. Just flipping back and forth between convos

Why? Just why? Just debate what you see lol please I just wanted a quick debate lol

But the last I do agree with Socialism is the road to Communism

@Synth

What do you mean?

I want a coherent debate.

Not one where you'll just say things like *Socialism is x* and have no idea what that means.

This is a useless conversation

Lol, you have not debated any of my claims about socialism you’ve literally spent the entire time asking what socialism is, I’d expect you’d know as a self proclaimed socialist. I just want a debate not a fucking socialism paper report

I've copied down my half written response to tell you this

Debates which are for fun, are useless and not worth having

You haven't the slightest clue what Socialism even is besides a dictionary, nor have you read anything on it

Which was a Socialist explaining the idea

You've maybe read on critiques which didn't even apply to it. So, I ask rudimentary things so we can actually learn

If you don't like learning, don't debate.

No? Debates can easily be fun, I can debate you on fucking religion it can still be fun, but you wouldn’t usually ask a Muslim, Describe Christianity, what denomination, what sector, what Council,

I’m responding to the fun thing before you go on a full 7 paragraph essay

Then we will not debate. Debates in my view are too learn something. If you cannot handle taking time to explain your specific ideas, we will end up getting nowhere. trust me, i've debated more than 100 people who think EXACTLY what you do. And they ended up being just as clueless because they were too stuck on one idea which wasn't even related to my beliefs nor any other like me.

I have given you my views on socialism, the entire point is to learn right? Then fucking debate them,

Last I checked, I did respond to the first point. Which, for one, your response to that and any ideas is essential for the other 2.

And bro this ain’t a who’s got the bigger count, I’ve debated fascists, Ive debated Muslims, I’ve debated Catholics, Feminists, Men’s right activists, it’s not about how many, it’s if you can actually debate them

And ffs, you're so lost. You do not seem to get it. I do not want to spend an entire debate explaining basic concepts to you. hence why I ask, see response, decide if I need to ask more

Right, and I can guarantee you left with the same view each time mostly because you didn't even know what they were talking about

GG @Synth, you just advanced to level 2!

You can do the same as I

And dude it’s 2 in the fucking morning I just wanted a quick fucking debate? Then you went on a descriptive essay,

And dude, religion and politics are my thing, of course I left with the same views, you act like someone changes every debate they have. This ain’t a paradise where people have to believe what you do. I’m going to have the same views because they couldn’t give a decent answer to the things I said, what part of debate do you not understand

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@Techpriest what)

Capitalism is better because Karl Marx was literally an incel

Lmao