Message from @Green Syndicalism

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2019-07-21 21:16:55 UTC  

guess im destroyed

2019-07-21 21:17:08 UTC  

gonna kill myself by drinking water

2019-07-21 21:17:09 UTC  

no state, pure capitalism

2019-07-21 21:17:19 UTC  

bottle caps 4 the win

2019-07-21 21:18:55 UTC  

interesting thing about fallout is that its a leftist critique

2019-07-21 21:19:01 UTC  

same with doom

2019-07-21 21:19:10 UTC  

or at least they originally were

2019-07-21 22:19:06 UTC  

good morning

2019-07-22 00:06:28 UTC  

@ZetMo
> the left got their word stolen

Liberalism isn't a label defining a preference of economics. It is an umbrella term for a large school of thought who's Foundation can be found thousands of years ago. It championed the empowerment of the individual over the collective, initially with an emphasis on economics.


**Inspirations of Liberalism**
Lao Tzu (600 BC)
Mencius
Arabi Nisollasaya
Xenophon
Anne Robert Jacques Turgot, the baron de l'Aulne (1727–1781)
Francis Hutcheson (1694–1746)

**Founders of liberalism**
John Locke (1632-1704)
David Hume (1711-1776)
Adam Smith (1723-1790)
David Ricardo (1772-1823)
John Mill (1806-1873)


**20thish Century Propagaters of Liberalism**
Menger (1840-1921)
Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
Fredrick Hayek (1889-1992)
Murray Rothbard(1926-1995)

Liberalism, in the context of being Libertarians mother ideology, has always been about Market advocacy over social justice.

John Rawls with his book called a theory of Justice, is often cited as being the source of intellectual Divergence in the liberal School of thought.

But nooooooo the left did not get their word stolen. Quite the reverse.

2019-07-22 00:11:16 UTC  

Also, who cares if capitalism needs a state to function? I don't plan on government getting abolidhed anytime soon So it doesn't really matter lol what point were you making there?

2019-07-22 00:23:11 UTC  

@VoVoDoCo They aren't true liberals, they are fake liberals that don't deserve the right to call themselves that.

2019-07-22 00:29:44 UTC  

The founders of liberalism don't deserve the title of Liberal?

2019-07-22 00:30:25 UTC  

The left invented Liberalism?

2019-07-22 00:30:51 UTC  

uh in what reality did they (the modern leftists) invent classical Liberalism?

2019-07-22 00:31:57 UTC  

Oh by they I thought you meant the people I listed

2019-07-22 00:32:11 UTC  

Yeah never mind lol

2019-07-22 00:32:16 UTC  

We cool

2019-07-22 00:32:33 UTC  

Okay lol

2019-07-22 00:33:57 UTC  

Modern Leftists are fucking stupid dumbasses that ruin the word Liberal...

2019-07-22 01:33:42 UTC  

@VoVoDoCo you realise liberalism was left wing 250 years ago?

2019-07-22 01:33:49 UTC  

the right wing was feudalist and monarchical

2019-07-22 01:34:20 UTC  

these days liberalism is just centrist

2019-07-22 01:34:43 UTC  

but can lean heavily right depending on your interpretation of its principles for policy

2019-07-22 01:42:15 UTC  

Well they didn't use the left-right Spectrum Way Back Then. Liberalism was seen as anti monarchical. So if you use the standard " far left is anarchy and far-right is totalitarian" Spectrum used by a few then yeah it would be considered left

2019-07-22 01:48:14 UTC  

We were speaking an economical terms though

2019-07-22 02:13:18 UTC  

well they did actually, this is how it came about

2019-07-22 02:13:42 UTC  

the enlightenment and liberal thinkers in france sat on the left side of the assembly

2019-07-22 02:13:53 UTC  

the monarchy defenders sat on the right side of the assembly

2019-07-22 02:14:07 UTC  

so this was *the original* left vs right battle

2019-07-22 02:14:12 UTC  

The monarchy

2019-07-22 02:14:14 UTC  

were in the right

2019-07-22 02:14:44 UTC  

its just that monarchy and feudalism lost

2019-07-22 02:15:33 UTC  

and more progressive policies appeared over time as even more *revolutionary/reformist* than the left wing liberals were willing to go

2019-07-22 02:16:08 UTC  

so in the absence of a monarchical/feudal right wing defending the existing order, the liberals became the right wing which were defending the existing order

2019-07-22 13:47:13 UTC  

Economy doesnt exist

2019-07-22 13:47:13 UTC  

2019-07-22 13:47:19 UTC  

die libtard

2019-07-22 14:31:16 UTC  

lol

2019-07-22 15:58:12 UTC  

Armenia is a good boi

2019-07-22 15:58:32 UTC  

Monarchies are good