Basic

so for me a libertarian is just a more radical liberal

who stole our word

so much for intellectual property protection

because unlike capitalism, socialism can exist without state management 😃

ever played fucking fallout my nigga?

get destroyed libtard

no my black person

guess im destroyed

gonna kill myself by drinking water

no state, pure capitalism

bottle caps 4 the win

interesting thing about fallout is that its a leftist critique

same with doom

or at least they originally were

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good morning

@ZetMo
> the left got their word stolen

Liberalism isn't a label defining a preference of economics. It is an umbrella term for a large school of thought who's Foundation can be found thousands of years ago. It championed the empowerment of the individual over the collective, initially with an emphasis on economics.


**Inspirations of Liberalism**
Lao Tzu (600 BC)
Mencius
Arabi Nisollasaya
Xenophon
Anne Robert Jacques Turgot, the baron de l'Aulne (1727–1781)
Francis Hutcheson (1694–1746)

**Founders of liberalism**
John Locke (1632-1704)
David Hume (1711-1776)
Adam Smith (1723-1790)
David Ricardo (1772-1823)
John Mill (1806-1873)


**20thish Century Propagaters of Liberalism**
Menger (1840-1921)
Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
Fredrick Hayek (1889-1992)
Murray Rothbard(1926-1995)

Liberalism, in the context of being Libertarians mother ideology, has always been about Market advocacy over social justice.

John Rawls with his book called a theory of Justice, is often cited as being the source of intellectual Divergence in the liberal School of thought.

But nooooooo the left did not get their word stolen. Quite the reverse.

Also, who cares if capitalism needs a state to function? I don't plan on government getting abolidhed anytime soon So it doesn't really matter lol what point were you making there?

@VoVoDoCo They aren't true liberals, they are fake liberals that don't deserve the right to call themselves that.

The founders of liberalism don't deserve the title of Liberal?

The left invented Liberalism?

uh in what reality did they (the modern leftists) invent classical Liberalism?

Oh by they I thought you meant the people I listed

Yeah never mind lol

We cool

Okay lol

Modern Leftists are fucking stupid dumbasses that ruin the word Liberal...

@VoVoDoCo you realise liberalism was left wing 250 years ago?

the right wing was feudalist and monarchical

these days liberalism is just centrist

but can lean heavily right depending on your interpretation of its principles for policy

Well they didn't use the left-right Spectrum Way Back Then. Liberalism was seen as anti monarchical. So if you use the standard " far left is anarchy and far-right is totalitarian" Spectrum used by a few then yeah it would be considered left

We were speaking an economical terms though

well they did actually, this is how it came about

the enlightenment and liberal thinkers in france sat on the left side of the assembly

the monarchy defenders sat on the right side of the assembly

so this was *the original* left vs right battle

The monarchy

were in the right

its just that monarchy and feudalism lost