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(Marjority of 'Marxist' states were actually interpretations of Marxism)
Examples: Marxism, Lenninism. Titoism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Maoism,
Also his "ideas" have effected policies in countries all across the world - successful ones too.
Not every ideology followed by a country has to be exactly how the first philosopher of said ideology envisioned it for it to be considered a part of the same beliefs
Not every communist country has to be the same
truth is that communism has been tried many times
just like how there are spinoffs of any belief system, that doesn't mean that for example the UK and the United States aren't both Representative Republics of course they are
they are just different in a few ways
Marx helped bring complex system thinking into economics, that alone is a huge contribution
The only good thing to come from Marx were a few socialist policies adopted throughout Europe
WE haven't seen anything yet policy wise, most of what he talked about was resisted, even by the "marxists"
the post-Keyesnians are first real attempt and they are fought hard by the Neoliberals
The Communism Meme is like 2% of what Marx talked about
XD
They were all reading the same Communist Manifesto
the same Kapitalism
they all read the same texts
shame they got only 2%
what afucking joke
You can read stuff without practicing it or paying heed to it
what was practiced was mostly just using marx as a marketing slogan to grab power
Leninism for example directly went against what marx said about passing through stages
so give me the other 98% of policies not adopted
Entire Bolshevik faction was refutation of some of his main ideas, at least as for as positive action was concerned
Much of what he talked about wasn't policy , it was analysis, building up a framework of system dynamics
They refuted economic and social collectivism and class warfare too?
Marx talked passing through the stages, the Bolsheviks were dramatically opposed to that. The Mensheviks were the 'marxists' and they got kicked out
Thats what the october coup was, the bolsheviks executing a coup against the Mensheviks
Even that isn't to say that many political and economic stances of marxism werent adopted
just because they coup a seperate faction of communists doesnt mean that they wont didn't adopt policies
well that's exactly what happened, the Bolshevik's opposed transitioning Russia into a capitalist economy first
that was what the fight between the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks was about
Kerensky lost, Lenin took over, and Bolshevism created the USSR
Lenin and Co were like corrupt people using Jesus as their marketing mascot, but dont care about the poor, pissing on the Beatitudes, etc
Literally the only major difference between Bolsheviks and Mensheviks was the rate of change at which they wanted to progress society
policy wise they were almost entirely similar
that's a big difference, it's like going from ice to steam without becoming water first
Also
Lenin didnt use Jesus as a marketing tool at all
what the fuck is that even supposed to mean