Message from @Sheamus

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2018-10-31 17:57:37 UTC  

I was responding to your question

2018-10-31 17:57:44 UTC  

opinions can differ so lets leave it at that

2018-10-31 17:58:00 UTC  

@Nidalap Rorrim How was ur day

2018-10-31 17:58:02 UTC  

;>

2018-10-31 17:58:13 UTC  

PostiveVibes

2018-10-31 17:58:32 UTC  

Literally when are you gonna join us in vc?

2018-10-31 17:59:21 UTC  

Perception differs, ideas differ, opinions differ. Have to sit down and reason about it, disagreement is fine, so long as its civil.

2018-10-31 17:59:27 UTC  

hehe ja you can do that

2018-10-31 18:00:35 UTC  

I dunno, if I go on voice I have other groups where I go into voice, that's why I don't hang around in voice here lol

2018-10-31 18:01:19 UTC  

@Nidalap Rorrim let's do ... after Renaldo's stream. I think there's a good discussion here and probs a lot more sensible than typing out. Hard to gauge tone. You in @literally? And why not join here. Most convos are quite chilled ...

2018-10-31 18:01:24 UTC  

Voice channel here is shit u aint missin out on much

2018-10-31 18:01:49 UTC  
2018-10-31 18:02:02 UTC  

hm

2018-10-31 18:02:13 UTC  

Usually ends up in a discussion about furries

2018-10-31 18:02:16 UTC  

I hate it

2018-10-31 18:02:51 UTC  

@Apollo must smash that mute button!

2018-10-31 18:04:28 UTC  

Is not that I have anything against you guys that I don't want to chat here lol, I'll maybe check it out sometime, listen in and if I feel the need to add my 2c I'll do so.

2018-10-31 18:06:07 UTC  

Yeah that furry shite is rather annoying to be honest. There are dedicated groups and communities for that shit, dunno why it keeps crawling into every space it can.

2018-10-31 18:07:33 UTC  

If it's not about furries it's about Peppermint's boyfriend...

2018-10-31 18:07:37 UTC  

It's honestly a shithole

2018-10-31 18:07:42 UTC  

Lol

2018-10-31 18:08:09 UTC  

⎝⎠ ╲╱╲╱ ⎝⎠

2018-10-31 18:14:26 UTC  

Come to think of it, a good comparison to give perspective of what I mean to be the issue regarding the "majority", remember that video Renaldo did on the lady that got choked and robbed on public and broad daylight while the people all around didn't even react to it, just pretended like nothing is happening, and even laughing at it. You certainly can say that the majority there didn't Rob her, it was the fringe minority there that did, but if the majority isn't responding to it at all, it makes them complicit doesn't it? In principle, it's the same thing, that's what I'm hitting on. Different context, but same principle.

2018-10-31 18:20:28 UTC  

if someone is a problem in voice chat or constantly derails conversations we will remove him/mute him, because I get that certain people chase away other from talking in voice chat

2018-10-31 18:24:16 UTC  

I agree with what your saying. But my issue is that completely loses its context if you compress all that and just say the "majority" wants something in one short sentence.

2018-10-31 18:51:43 UTC  

The majority discussion came from when we were discussing your opinion that a group are pushing for a revolution

2018-10-31 18:53:13 UTC  

Yeah but the context really isn't the driving force behind a point, it's the principle. So to me if someone isn't actively making an effort to respond appropriately to a situation by good reason, as they would like to others to respond to them in that situation, then it only informs me that they agree with what's going on. That's complicit to me, and others seem to agree with that too. So majority is what it is, this is after all what majority rule is, majority dictates what reality is.

2018-10-31 18:53:21 UTC  

are you saying the ANC are pushing it or did you mean the little groups like EFF and BLF

2018-10-31 18:54:24 UTC  

Yes and the reality is that the revolution as they dictate it, is happening in reality... By who's will is it happening?

2018-10-31 18:55:54 UTC  

I'm saying the majority as in everyone all together, the majority of that. Not a specific party, race, gender, sexuality or anything.

2018-10-31 19:02:19 UTC  

nope don't see that happening. Humans are way to chaotic for a organized act as a revolution on the scale your talking about.

2018-10-31 19:08:31 UTC  

@WuldGoGayForLauren yeah I don't like furries either

2018-10-31 19:09:02 UTC  

Lol well things are happening and reality is unfolding, maybe not around you and your immediate surroundings, but in other areas its very different. Nationally and Internationally, and if you pay attention, you might realise the objective truth probably isn't all the same as your subjective truth perhaps.

2018-10-31 19:11:00 UTC  

It happens every time the world is in peace for so long. (no BIG wars going on atm, i'm not saying there is no wars currently)

2018-10-31 19:11:02 UTC  

>what was comintern
>Why was Cuba and China and Russia in Africa?

2018-10-31 19:11:18 UTC  

Revolution my friend

2018-10-31 19:13:36 UTC  

Yes complacency is valid, point I was making.

2018-10-31 19:15:07 UTC  

Powder keg for a big war yes, Revolution no-way.

2018-10-31 19:17:40 UTC  

also revolution against what if you say its a global thing ? Who is going to revolt against who ?

2018-10-31 19:38:15 UTC  

Well looking at the trends, it would appear the focus is on identity, the divisions are occurring on those lines that people identify as, so race against race, class against class, gender against gender, nation, religion, sexuality etc.

We see the racist policies implemented, the sexist policies, the screwing around with the tax payers money and soon property too. We see the effects there of, and how bad it is, but the majority are the ones empowering this, and the majority is supporting it, and enthusiastically pursuing it, because why not, they supposedly get something from it for free, typical socialist idealogy, so they vote according to that, do you know how scary it is that so many socialists think freedom is defined as getting things for free from the government?

So it's happening, there doesn't seem to be much resistance to it either, and things are predictably falling apart. A revelution is the forcible overthrow of a government system, in favour of another government system. Now if you have been paying attention, you would know there is a trending idea that apartheid still is going on, because white privilege and white monopoly capital or something like that, and that's the evil oppressors that need to be overthrown.

I dunno why you doubt the very evident signs though.

2018-10-31 19:44:21 UTC  

It's an actual conspiracy sold off as the truth, but the truth is being denounced as conspiracies lol like when Ramaphosa openly and deliberately denied what's going on when the governments own records prove him wrong, that's supposedly a conspiracy.