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Just want to say I have an issue with Renaldo's video on the Kimberley Boys High incident. Yes, that boy has discipline problems that probably start at home but spanking is not the solution. That kid throwing the water probably is beaten at home, likely causing him to be violent in the first place. Kids don't become violent for no reason. They learn it somehow, most likely at home. The kid probably has a poor home situation, no father, abusive parents or many other issues. Solve the root cause. Don't use violence to solve violence.

If you look at the research, spanking has short term benefits but long term consequences. Yes, some people turn out okay but many kids will develop issues later (more aggression, lower IQ, criminality, trust issues, depression, anxiety, development issues). Laws against hitting children are in fact supported by science:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/201309/research-spanking-it-s-bad-all-kids
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/

@Mr Wood "That kid throwing the water probably is beaten at home, likely causing him to be violent in the first place." Throwing water is not violent, event he way he did it with next to no force, that was just downright respectful act. The kid knows no boundaries, and needs to learn boundaries. Your issue is yours, you can keep it. Fact is you didnt have this in the past, and if anyone dared to do this, there would be severe consequences. You dont seem to realize that this whole lack of corporal punishment is the reason this is happening in the first place, and to assume he is being beaten at home is nothing more than an assumption, you have to prove he actually is, and if he was, there would be marks, and there are marks, it would be reported, and so on and so on... Point is, you are making an assumption, it's not relevant

Lower IQ from getting 6 van die bestes?

@Sheamus agree, it wasn't violent, the kid was being a dickhead. I bet he was trying to show off in front of the class.

Imagine the absolute hell that teachers have to go through.

@spursfan82 Yeah and that is the problem, his behaviour is being encouraged, and with no immediate consequences, he got his 15min of fame from a viral video showing his rebelious behavior... Really think he is going to stop being a dick? lol

I think throwing water in someones face is an act of violence, although very minor. Probably more a case of disrespect but the definition of violence is not my case. So we can assume it was not violence for this argument.

Non-spanking is my case. Your assumption that spanking is a good solution is my problem. Read the research. Go to Google scholar and look for more papers. The science is settled and you are denying science. Spanking is the wrong solution.

Take a scientific perspective. If spanking improves behaviour. Find me journal studies that back up your argument.

My definition of violence: - the use of physical force so as to injure, damage, or destroy. There was no injury, no damage, and nothing destroyed, so damn right this was not an act of violence, but by your standards, I would assume you consider silence to be violence as well. Secondly, busy reading the links you sent me, it's all jokes really, like for example:

"This area is hard to study in the home, because spanking rarely occurs at all and rarely in front of strangers. It is hard to study in the laboratory because of the prohibition against hurting subjects.

Nevertheless, some studies have been done."

Really? what studies were done then?

1. Spanking destroys mental health. - What kind of statement is that even?
2. Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior. - Quite the opposite, learning to respect authority keeps one away from delinquency and criminal behavior.
3. Spanking makes it more likely the child will be physically abused. - What even? Kids with no boundaries and respect for authority are more likely to be aggresive and get into trouble with authorities and met with force.

And lastly, you have years of history proving the point. Plenty of people today that grew up in the past can testify this shit never happened, kids also didnt smoke on school grounds, neither were teen girls pregnant in school at the rate they are now...

Getting spanked = Stupidity

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Pretty much, it's only for the deserving lol, any other forms of physical punishment out of say, soemthing like venting frustration or anger, that would be considered abuse.

Read the second study I posted. It cites a study that actually measures brain size differences between children that are spanked versus non-spanked. In science, personal anecdotes are the weakest form of evidence. No scientific paper would ever be accepted based on the fact that you found a few people who believe spanking did not hurt them.

Most psychologists would also say that spanked children and later adults tend to downplay or deny negative effect caused by parents even in severe cases. Most people would not even realise their own flaws that are the result of poor parenting strategies. Spanking makes parents lazy when they should be negotiating with their kids like we do with adults.

The problem today is massive degredation of the family. Single parent households and bad parents lead to bad kids. Poorer communities are having more kids than we have ever seen in the past which was probably less of a problem when you were in school. You probably went to schools when there was a lower divorce rate, more middle class kids and schools are obviously much worse today than 10-15 years ago. Poorer communities tend to produce unruly kids for various reasons. Kids also learn bad behaviour from other kids. Schooling has gotten quite bad in SA. Quality has gone down.

When you are old and in a nursing home. If you are behaving badly due to mental problems and spanking works on you. Should the elderly be spanked and threatened if it works?

GG @Mr Wood, you just advanced to level 1!

>Spanking is bad

Wew

Nobody gets spanked here, I never did. I got a proper hiding when I behaved like a little cunt

Yeah I read it, not sold on it... But since you want a journal with a study, found one, more recent too, 2013 as opposed to your 1983-1002 studies, but let me give you the break down, and then i will share the journal.

Short-Term Studies
The only studies that meet the most rigorous requirements for evidence-based medical practice are clinical field trials conducted with clinically oppositional children. To determine which back-up or enforcer procedure was most effective in controlling a child’s escape from time-out, a spank procedure was tested against 3 other procedures in randomized clinical field trials. The two-swat spank procedure was found to be the most effective, most preferred and most practical of all measures tested. Research similarly found “a mild spanking to be the most feasible back-up for the child leaving the time-out chair.” Even though these studies focused on spanking only as an enforcer of time-out, they are significant for other reasons:

> They are well-designed, randomized, clinical field studies that compare spanking to other responses.

> The problem behavior of noncompliance with time-out is very similar to other types of problem behaviors a defiant child might display. These studies offer evidence of spanking’s effectiveness in changing problem behavior.

> The effectiveness of time-out is crucial to most behavioral parenting programs. The spank procedure can strengthen time-out’s effectiveness and reduce a parent’s need to use spanking independently or primarily.

Long-Term Studies
The long-term effects of any disciplinary measure, including spanking, are enormously influenced by the parental and environmental factors within the disciplinary process. The following parenting styles were identified:

Authoritarian Parents: were more controlling, more restrictive, less inclined to explain, more punitive, detached, and less warm. To discipline they used fear, little encouragement and often corporal punishment.

Permissive Parents: were markedly less controlling, minimally demanding, freely granting of the child’s demands, uninvolved with the child, and benign toward the child’s impulses and actions. To discipline they used ridicule, guilt provocation, little power and reasoning, and rarely corporal punishment.

Authoritative Parents: employed a combination of firm control and positive encouragement of a child’s independence. They affirmed the child’s qualities and, yet, set a standard for future conduct. They made reasonable demands of their children and promoted respect for authority. They were more consistent with the discipline. To discipline they used reasoning, power, reinforcement to achieve objectives, and some corporal punishment.

Some of the study’s findings included:

> The Authoritative parents who balanced firm control with encouragement reared the most socially responsible and assertive children, i.e. achievement orientation, friendliness toward peers, cooperativeness with adults, social dominance, nonconforming behavior and purposiveness.

> The Authoritative parents favored corporal punishment over other negative sanctions.

> Permissive parents (both mothers and fathers) admitted to “explosive attacks of rage in which they inflicted more pain or injury upon the child than they had intended.” They became more “violent because they felt they could neither control the child’s behavior nor tolerate its effect upon themselves.”

Punishment is an effective means of controlling childhood behavior, and is not intrinsically harmful to the child.

and then here is a journal too http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2466/15.10.49.PR0.112.3.933-975

And this was just a brief search too, I bet i could find many more if I actually invested the time to prove what I am already convinced of from witnessing it in reality.

"When you are old and in a nursing home. If you are behaving badly due to mental problems and spanking works on you. Should the elderly be spanked and threatened if it works?"

LOL!! You clearly dont understand any of this if this is your real world example... This is not how it works lol