Message from @Deucey

Discord ID: 522813234709921821


2018-12-13 08:23:10 UTC  

The AR15 is a cheap semi automatic rifle chambered in a round that's viable for self defense, has been banned in the past federally and some states right now, and is demonized by the media

2018-12-13 08:23:14 UTC  

Problem is: The Bad Guys will get their hands on a rifle anyway, so that only leaves the good guys without a gun

2018-12-13 08:23:51 UTC  

Not even that, in the US we have the 2nd amendment

2018-12-13 08:24:11 UTC  

that as well...

2018-12-13 08:24:28 UTC  

but look at Charlie Hebdo. Weren't they murdered with a fully automatic rifle?

2018-12-13 08:24:31 UTC  

If you are anti gun you either have to somehow limit gun rights without technically infringing upon it or modify/repeal the amendment which is much more difficult than getting activist judges in the courts

2018-12-13 08:25:38 UTC  

Not sure about that particular incident but im not surprised, in countries with strict gun laws there's no reason not to have full auto guns for use in crime

2018-12-13 08:26:02 UTC  

One of the easiest guns to manufacture on your own is an open bolt full auto smg

2018-12-13 12:00:46 UTC  

**Forgotten Weapons** Uploaded a new youtube video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbrH_S2Nppo

2018-12-13 12:40:42 UTC  

We don't talk about the MDR.

2018-12-13 13:17:53 UTC  

Worked in government, can confirm that racial profiling is encouraged privately.

2018-12-13 13:21:49 UTC  

Also, what's the defense for 5.56 as viable for self defense? I mean, sure, in as much as it's a bullet, it'll probably stop someone trying to attack you, but then so would any other bullet.

2018-12-13 13:50:23 UTC  

5.56 is not really more or less viable for self defense. It depends on the person. It will give you some penetration but at the same time it gives you penetration. Meaning you are more likely to shoot through your backstop into whatever is on the other side. You also might also get over-penetration of your target in close range situations. That said, its the most common round for semi-auto rifles in the US i believe and has low kick, helping you keep rounds are target with less effort or skill.

2018-12-13 13:51:44 UTC  

Well, watch it to the end...

2018-12-13 15:00:53 UTC  

5.56/.223 has limited overpenetration and low recoil

2018-12-13 16:30:04 UTC  

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2018-12-13 16:30:08 UTC  

so I'm new here, but I found this.

2018-12-13 16:30:16 UTC  

I don't really know what to say.

2018-12-13 16:33:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467577750325297162/522813233732780037/image.gif

2018-12-13 16:37:54 UTC  

Given its small profile and high velocity, I would think overpenetration would be quite common. Am I missing something?

2018-12-13 16:38:14 UTC  

I do understand that low recoil is one of the biggest benefits.

2018-12-13 16:54:09 UTC  

I'm not sure I'd want to risk it, given how you'd grip it. It seems to me like it'd transfer the forces through your wrist exactly how you don't want it to.

2018-12-13 16:54:41 UTC  

I'm not convinced the gun actually exists.

2018-12-13 17:03:39 UTC  

@ctwelve it's not much different than any other short handle shotgun

2018-12-13 17:04:57 UTC  

From what i understand about ballistics the 5.56 projectile is so thin and moves so quickly that it tends to tumble when hitting an object, which slows it down and limits overpenetration as a result

2018-12-13 17:05:21 UTC  

It overpenetrates less than handgun rounds or buckshot

2018-12-13 17:38:54 UTC  

Yeah, it's not, but it looks fucking sick. @Grenade123

2018-12-13 17:40:32 UTC  

when its that short it should be made over under to maintain a low profile

2018-12-13 17:40:42 UTC  

but thats just my opinion

2018-12-13 18:34:17 UTC  

@Miss Direction The youtube video about Adam ruins everything was, oof.

2018-12-13 18:34:21 UTC  

That was bad.

2018-12-13 18:34:39 UTC  

Like Adam Ruins Everything was bad, not the video.

2018-12-13 19:10:41 UTC  

```The panel also voted to include a controversial proposal allowing classroom teachers to carry guns in schools if they go through a selection process that would include background checks and training. Such a change would require the state Legislature’s approval.

Right now, school systems are allowed under a guardian program to arm certain school employees, such as security guards, administrators or librarians.``` Not what you'd expect. The vote was also 13-1 (not stated in the article, but easy to verify)
```“This was the most preventable school shooting that I’ve ever seen data on,” he [Ryan Petty, a commission member whose 14-year-old daughter Alaina was killed in the attack] said. “This kid was screaming for help by publishing his intentions.”```No disagreement there
```The commission didn’t take the step of recommending the most costly school safety improvements, such as metal detectors and bulletproof glass. Instead, the panel referred those expensive items to the Florida Department of Education’s Office of Safe Schools for further review.```Well we saw what they recommended.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-stoneman-douglas-draft-report-20181212-story.html

2018-12-13 19:12:13 UTC  

As long as you keep leaving schools unguarded, psychos will keep seeing schools as easy targets.

2018-12-13 20:04:17 UTC  

A sign reading "1 in (Fill in blank) members of our school staff are armed with Concealed Carry Firearms. Have a nice day." would do a lot to reduce school shootings by it's self.

2018-12-13 20:05:50 UTC  

yeah tbh

2018-12-13 20:06:02 UTC  

like having the shells of security cameras in parking lots

2018-12-13 20:06:16 UTC  

like just the idea of it is enough to deter people