@Deller techincally more competition for work

It's supply and demand if there are more people working the lower the wages and salaries will be.

OK, while that makes sense, I don't think the solution is to deny or discourage work. As puke said a moment ago: positive reinforcement is always better.

We should spend more time looking up, not down.

~~I can't english today.~~

let people have their freedoms and decide for themselves, honestly I think the biology would sort itself out if it werent so publicly demonized to be a "good mom"

That and more people in the workforce means more economic output

Yeah, or treating motherhood as some kind of slave labor or something, where by *far* it is one of the most fulfilling things to do in life.

@pukeblood well that depends wholly on the definition of good mom

Which is good for big companies but not the people working for them and it's at the expince of the society.

Right to self determination

My mom comes from redneckianville Alabama where you were expected to pump out five and never leave the house

Next question

There’s literally no difference between me staying home and raising the kids and my wife working vs my wife staying home raising the kids and me working

@Converted Weeb there is never going to be a good catch-all depiction, but variety will exist, the fact that all varieties are demonized is bad

True

@Deller actually there is

Mothers and fathers do play different roles in raising children, though.

You see mothers are naturally more nurturing and kind than say fathers

Deller the difference is men are better at working while women are better at raising children.

My dad had me flipping tires at 8 while my mom was still tucking me in

with more nuance- there is a greater stimulatory effect on a child from having its mother around early on

Tell that to Zachary Turner

Mothers typically embody the empathy and care model for the child, whereas the father usually is supposed to represent a more ethic and authoritative one.

*Typically*, I want to emphasize.

Thats the thing

and show harshness

My father is a great man and one I want to be

but him taking the mother role would be so

Unorthodox

It would be ridiculous

So, one mother drugs her kid and jumps into the ocean, and suddenly mothers aren't naturally more empathetic and caring towards their children?

too much empathy imo

Thats called taking an outlier and extrapolating it out of proportion

@JadenFrostwolf

eeyup.

Pro-choiceers do this a lot with rapes and the like

sexism is inherently supposed to be negative prejudiced, while saying asians are always good at math seems unfair, I dont think saying mothers are more caring to babies is what we want to call sexist

Asians are good at math seems more positive than negative

I mentioned it because it doesnt apply- if it is true its a cultural thing

sexism is based on biology