I absolutely agree with that, aussie.

Yes, being anti-(insert ethnic group) is bad

no one is arguing that we should stop punishing white people for the crime of being white

Correct that, Jayred

But why does wanting to stop anti white rhetoric mean I should adopt collective thinking

but the solution to stopping people from being punished for being white

Is NOT to punish black people for being black

An individual can't beat a collective.

tell that to that florida shooter

too soon

it was him against dozens

Uh, that was something else entirely... lol

It irritates the fuck out of me when people go “you white people.....” why would I want to adopt that same ignorant outlook

You assume that an individual can't form coalitions as well.

The difference between an Individualist and a Collectivist

Becase you are of that group so bying saying that people shouldn't say bad things about your group means you are thinking as a collectivist.

is that when the groups an Individualist subscribes to stray from the individual's path

they unsubscribe

@JadenFrostwolf ofc, but when you compare statistics, it was 1 individual white guy mowing down a lot of others

For instance

I'm with you on several points

I think the Anti-white rhetoric has to stop

I'm just saying Florida shouldn't apply because the entire thing was a mess, on several levels.

Becase you see whites as a group.

No, it doesn’t bother me that they wanna blame white people for their issues. It bothers me that they assume shit about me because of my race, gender, or sexual orientation.

I know it was, but this discussion is a mess on several levels too 😛

Don’t assume you know me just because you know random facts about me

I believe that justice based on social groups is a disgusting tool that needs to be abandoned.

I don't know you as an individual but we are dealing with collectives.

And that's where I fall away from the Alt-Right, because the Alt-Right adopts those policies in reverse, as if defined by it's own enemies.

The thing is Rye racial groups are a biological collective.

But they are not inherently a social collective.

Not automatically.

The fact that me and my neighbor share the same skin color doesn't mean anything. We're peers in the same city, same neighborhood, but we're very different.

I think the issue here is that One of you, is confusing "biological preference" with "pack mentality"

The fact that my neighbor down the street has a different skin color than me doesn't mean anything either, he and I get along better than my other neighbor. He's got a Blue Lives Matter sticker on his van and he's based libertarian as fuck.

When (((they))) started to make whites hate themsleves and promote atomized individualism.

lots of peopel hate themselves, thats not a trait only white people have

I'd argue it's the trait that sets blacks that break out of the collective apart, that they've lost their self-hatred.

Rye You have to remeber that race is more then skin colour.

one of the traits.

and you completely forget
It is the individualism that allows for Capitalism to be a thing, And capitalism is the very thing that made the west the powerhouse it was