Very true mate but you have to rember that alot of hispanics want to regain the forma Mexican territories it has lost to America to either rejoin Mexico or create a new country and with demographic trends I don't see how you will stop them.

I wouldn't say "alot" believe that (I am just guessing though) but there is a determined group that do agree to the whole Aztlan movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztl%C3%A1n#Use_by_the_Chicano_movement

@JadenFrostwolf Whether you like it or not America is already subsidizing Mexico and it's still shit. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/26/us-aid-320-million-mexico-wall-trump-specialists-backfire/97103024/

Yeah.
Well, whether it be from an active coordinated effort or through sheer coincidence, the effect is going to be the same: those states/territories are going to become majority hispanic.

California is leading the way

(into the shitter)

Both demographically and econonically/politically

( i butchered that spelling)

Again, though, that doesn't detract from my point that I'd rather Mexico be a legitimate country with it's own flourishing economy and an actual trade partner and just justifies that desire.

But that's just not gonna happen without massive changes, changes which I don't see as likely to happen 'on their own.'

I would agree with that. They should sink or swim on their own. Unfortunately if they do fail then nothing short of a solid wall from Pacific to Gulf would prevent a tidal wave of people coming north

@JadenFrostwolf The only way that could happen if Mexico had a better population and a homogeneous population.

Mexico is pretty homogeneous, isn't it?

It's a blending of natives and Spanish with a smattering of other groups in small numbers thrown in

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275439/ethnic-groups-in-mexico/

But yeah, I think the main reason there has not been a revolution by now is because people can flee into the US. If there is an out from a bad situation, people will take it; though, if someone is cornered and trapped, they will fight or submit, and under such circumstances people will only submit for so long.

For example, there is (or at least was) a small group of blonde haired, blue eyed Mennonites living there

I wasn't aware of the varied ethnicities in Mexico.

We can all agreee with you there Jaden. The Mexicans need to stay in Mexico.

I do know that the 'natives' of the land before the Spanish arrived still resided there in small numbers... I think the Aztecs? They were very distinct from the Mexicans because they were far shorter. You could tell them apart just by looking at them.

I didn't know about the other ethnicities, though.

Interesting.

But yeah, I'm fully aware of the racial displacement going on in the SW right now. I grew up in it.

I saw first-hand as neighborhoods turned into ghettos and garbage dumps.

I know detractors will scream, "ANECDOTE!! ANECDOTE!! HISSS!!", but I just don't care. lol

That doesn't mean it's not happening.

I grew up in Chicago and saw the same sort of thing. neighborhoods went through cycles-nice neighborhoods turned bad and some bad neighborhood gentrified and turned around. Chicago might be the one off though. Detroit is the other extreme

I specifically remember my father one day telling me that I'm not allowed to wear red or blue shirts anymore, because I might accidentally catch the attention of the opposite 'gang' and they might think I'm part of their enemy's tribe.

Out of nowhere.

It was an uncommon thing *not* to hear gunshots in the middle of the night where I grew up.

Halsey is on purple dragon

and

Uh oh. lol

it's now OK with ethno nationalism on some level

it's really strange

It's funny how that keeps happening.

I never heard gunshots in the neighborhood I lived in but 2 miles west in the neighborhood that I went to school in there were alot of gangs and they were not shy in making their presence known

I've listened to all sorts of folks argue it

and I never buy into it

Now both neighborhoods are in the upper income/upper real estate priced areas of Chicago

Not sure why Halsey is willing to bend over to it