Message from @Ghostler

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2018-04-04 23:36:26 UTC  

I wasn't aware of the varied ethnicities in Mexico.

2018-04-04 23:36:32 UTC  

We can all agreee with you there Jaden. The Mexicans need to stay in Mexico.

2018-04-04 23:37:30 UTC  

I do know that the 'natives' of the land before the Spanish arrived still resided there in small numbers... I think the Aztecs? They were very distinct from the Mexicans because they were far shorter. You could tell them apart just by looking at them.

2018-04-04 23:37:39 UTC  

I didn't know about the other ethnicities, though.

2018-04-04 23:37:57 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-04-04 23:41:09 UTC  

But yeah, I'm fully aware of the racial displacement going on in the SW right now. I grew up in it.

2018-04-04 23:41:47 UTC  

I saw first-hand as neighborhoods turned into ghettos and garbage dumps.

2018-04-04 23:42:35 UTC  

I know detractors will scream, "ANECDOTE!! ANECDOTE!! HISSS!!", but I just don't care. lol

2018-04-04 23:42:52 UTC  

That doesn't mean it's not happening.

2018-04-04 23:43:40 UTC  

I grew up in Chicago and saw the same sort of thing. neighborhoods went through cycles-nice neighborhoods turned bad and some bad neighborhood gentrified and turned around. Chicago might be the one off though. Detroit is the other extreme

2018-04-04 23:47:10 UTC  

I specifically remember my father one day telling me that I'm not allowed to wear red or blue shirts anymore, because I might accidentally catch the attention of the opposite 'gang' and they might think I'm part of their enemy's tribe.

2018-04-04 23:47:16 UTC  

Out of nowhere.

2018-04-04 23:48:29 UTC  

It was an uncommon thing *not* to hear gunshots in the middle of the night where I grew up.

2018-04-04 23:49:12 UTC  

Halsey is on purple dragon

2018-04-04 23:49:12 UTC  

and

2018-04-04 23:49:25 UTC  

Uh oh. lol

2018-04-04 23:49:27 UTC  

it's now OK with ethno nationalism on some level

2018-04-04 23:49:36 UTC  

it's really strange

2018-04-04 23:49:49 UTC  

It's funny how that keeps happening.

2018-04-04 23:50:14 UTC  

I never heard gunshots in the neighborhood I lived in but 2 miles west in the neighborhood that I went to school in there were alot of gangs and they were not shy in making their presence known

2018-04-04 23:50:31 UTC  

I've listened to all sorts of folks argue it

2018-04-04 23:50:36 UTC  

and I never buy into it

2018-04-04 23:50:56 UTC  

Now both neighborhoods are in the upper income/upper real estate priced areas of Chicago

2018-04-04 23:50:58 UTC  

Not sure why Halsey is willing to bend over to it

2018-04-04 23:51:14 UTC  

Because there's nothing to 'buy into', it works.

2018-04-04 23:52:02 UTC  

Just about every country on the planet before 1965 was an ethnostate, including the US, be it through function or active enforcement of it.

2018-04-04 23:52:49 UTC  

Not the US really, heavy majority, sure; but it depends on where you bend the leaf as to who falls into what section

2018-04-04 23:53:14 UTC  

i.e. hatred of the irish, scottish, krauts

2018-04-04 23:53:15 UTC  

etc

2018-04-04 23:53:20 UTC  

Before the immigration reform of 1965, the immigration policy specifically named white people. You can't really get more outright 'ethnostate' than that.

2018-04-04 23:53:21 UTC  

italians

2018-04-04 23:54:37 UTC  

Sure, but, everyone always finds some difference on some level.

2018-04-04 23:55:50 UTC  

If were were to inherently say that ethnostates work, why are there so many examples of countries with homogeneous genetics that enter into civil wars?

2018-04-04 23:56:07 UTC  

Do we draw some IQ line and say, ok, here ethnostates work, below here they do not?

2018-04-05 00:07:05 UTC  

money only gives people the power to do what they want, it doesent make what they want to do any better. throwing money at foreign countrys without having power to influince the direction those countrys take that money in simply makes that countys problems more expensive. there were good happy communitys during the neolithic. i should also point out that nontransparent control offered along side subsides only works in specific ways, what america does when it controls south american countrys via the cia doesent classify as the kind of direction needed to go along side subsides, at best what it does is protect moneyed intrests

2018-04-05 00:08:09 UTC  

I'm trying to understand what you mean.
"Civil war exists, therefore ethnostates don't work"?

2018-04-05 00:09:35 UTC  

civil wars occure when communication breaks down and segragation isint an option. so id argue that civil war exists where ethnostates dont

2018-04-05 00:10:02 UTC  

For sure, yeah, but like I said, I'm trying to even wrap my head around his argument in the first place.

2018-04-05 00:10:18 UTC  

The civil war part seemed to come out of left field. lol

2018-04-05 00:10:48 UTC  

well consitering my paragraph was in responce to comments 50+ ago im probably behind the loop 😛

2018-04-05 00:11:44 UTC  

I mean there is a direct correlation between the average IQ of a state's population and the functionality of that state.