But yeah, I think it is safe to say some countries are 'lost' more than others.

Especially in the backlash scenario

Literally not one European country has even mentioned that anywhere remotely in their political agenda, let alone considered it.

where the populations move to more lenient places

I spend quite a lot of time on the /r/thenetherlands subreddit, and it's very, very left-wing.

It's quite interesting to see them basically scream in impotent rage as the 'far right' continues to gain ground.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/refugees-vote-scotland-elections-parliament-local-council-democracy-a8145496.html

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Scotland is not an independent country.

The idea is making it's rounds.

It's literally contained to Scotland, and the Scots literally have marxists in charge right now.

Even Sweden hasn't considered just letting anyone that lives there vote.

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-elections-2017-migrants-non-citizens-giving-votes-to-the-vote-less/

Granted that's something that can be revoked by individuals

and isn't institutional

That isn't a government policy >.>

Goalpost moving is difficult to resist, I know.

The idea is still being given thought.

In fringe groups.

Politics is downstream from culture.

And in the United States, the push for Amnesty comes with the intent to allow illegal immigrants the right to vote

And if you hadn't noticed, it's 'fringe groups' that are getting a lot of attention.

This is true.

My personal reaction to that shit is 'this is literally selling, bartering or otherwise manipulating your vote, which is illegal'

can't they do tht now in cali?

Potentially defacto

This shit is so obscured it's ridiculous.

Not officially, but many states don't require an ID to vote, at least some of the really blue ones.

And our left has screamed 'racism' at the idea of requiring an ID for one to be able to vote.

I do know that, on the approach to the 2016 elections, the governor of Virginia granted something like 40,000 felons the right to vote.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/virginia-clemency-restoration-of-rights-campaigns/549830/

And that voting base manipulation is being given political purchase in the language used

The right to vote is a civil rights issue.

like, currently in jail felons? or people who got out of jail 10 years ago?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/felons-voting-rights-virginia/

I was wrong

it wasn't 40,000

I personally do not comprehend the simple fact that going to prison for literally anything other than treason or otherwise directly attempting to undermine or violently manipulate the government and/or democratic process removes your right to vote in the US, but that's just me.

it was 200,000

My bad.