guns are loud. literally and figuratively.

I ask people that every now and then. the answer I tend to get is "guns are designed to fire hot metal slugs..."

how often does a stabbing make national news?

trade 1 shooting for 3 stabbings and people will say things are safer

because htey didn't hear it on the evening news

as much as I'd be interested in hearing about such a tragedy, unless the killer was Solid Snake or Jack the Ripper, I don't think we're hearing much about a stabbing

exactly

but some person just calls in gun shots at a school and it makes the news (even if there is no evidence there actually was a shot fired)

like i said, stabbings are quieter, and people also think less lethal.

Unless you are in china.

true

then you get mass stabbings of like 100 people

but in china that is someone just accidently sneezing while holding a knife they are so densely populated.

lol

when it comes to shooters one way think of it is this. If a madman can't find a gun then he'll find a knife of not that then poison, making a bomb, acid his bare hands. The weapons are the methods the mindset is what's most lethal.

exactly

i mean, look at the UK, the prized apple of gun control advocates. They still have problems with homicides and seem to now include basically any lawn care equipment as "deadly weapons". Which, to an extent, they can be, but usually its deadly to the operator because they were careless.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/21/police-seize-hundreds-weapons-knife-crime-crackdown-london-7332054/

if they ban guns, this is the next target: https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/sei_563403.jpg?w=748&h=561&crop=1

and that still doesn't address the problem

oi you got a license for that potato peeler?

@Adreyu people's arguments with that is that the killer would have to try a lot harder to kill that many people with knife or poison vs a gun you can just buy or steal

https://twitter.com/MPSBarnsbury/status/910872512418009091/photo/1

tbh I just point people to cars

that is a real fucking tweet from a police department

cars kill a ton of people but no one's gonna willingly part with that power if they have it

these tools can harm as well if ends up in wrong hands. *looks at my hands. you mean these tools?

the pro-gun control people call this argument a slippery slope while pointing to the country that proves its not a fallacy.

I wonder what life in New Zealand is like though

not too long ago I saw a video where it's stated they can legally own machine guns, but there's no mass murder there

they have recently been coming out more and more as ban all guns, not some guns (while saying its not all guns... just semi autos which is 95% of all guns sold these days, even a fucking revolver counts. at least the kind that doesn't require cocking the hammer), then say "it will just go to knifes" is slipper slope while point to the UK.....

funny thing is people who intend to do bad shit don't give a fuck

I saw a vid of a guy robbing a store with a makeshift spear

exactly.

the people who will be the most affected by gun control will be law abiding citizens. and not just any law abiding citizen, the law abiding citizens have stats behind them proving to be the MOST law abiding. the least likely to do any kind of crime.

even if we do that, I wonder how it is people expect things to improve

i'd say a bigger problem with guns in america is the culture of gun ignorance.

it leads to adults being afraid of them and kids not understanding them

kids think they are toys, parents pretend they don't exist

no I mean even if we just all unanimously decided, ok, fuck it, guns are the problem, get rid of them

do they think tomorrow morning is better..?