Message from @Grenade123
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the focus on a symptom, not the problem, then wonder why the problem doesn't go away, or gets worse but is slightly hidden.
I didn't know any of that, especially about wild hogs. interestin
but yes, I've noticed that as it pertains to gun control, I don't think I've ever seen a guy who was actually intimately familiar with guns aiding with the control side of the argument
I don't think that means anything specifically, but I find that interesting because you'd think there would be one and that he'd be very well-known
like i said, most people who see guns go "big scary black gun" and the only place they have seen it was on the news (and you only really see bad things on the news mostly), and in the hands of bad guys in movies or at war
and given that a large part of the population lives in cities, i don't exactly blame them for being uneducated. In a city, where the police are within walking distance most of the time as is another human who might help, guns are nearly as necessary a tool outside of a deterrent
but leave the city and the cops are not seconds away, they are minutes or sometimes hours away
and thats if the problem is human
i've lived in a wooded area as a kid. wild bears were a common day thing. If i moved back out into the country, a gun is wanted to deal with wild animals more than humans, but if i a human shows up to do me harm, its also my best chance because cops are not gonna be there in time, and i have no where really to run given how far away the nearest other person is
and what good is it banning guns if it doesn't noticeably reduce the overall homicide rate, or causes a sharp increase in violent crimes?
yeah, one person wasn't shot (which doesn't always kill. usually its lack of prompt medical response that kills with gunshots). But instead 1 house was broken into, 2 people mugged, and another stabbed (which a gut stab will have you bleed out dead in 10 minutes)
what I wonder is why people are so fixated on gun killing specifically
it gives some odd feeling as if killings of other kinds are perfectly fine
its "out of sight out of mind"
guns are loud. literally and figuratively.
I ask people that every now and then. the answer I tend to get is "guns are designed to fire hot metal slugs..."
how often does a stabbing make national news?
trade 1 shooting for 3 stabbings and people will say things are safer
because htey didn't hear it on the evening news
as much as I'd be interested in hearing about such a tragedy, unless the killer was Solid Snake or Jack the Ripper, I don't think we're hearing much about a stabbing
but some person just calls in gun shots at a school and it makes the news (even if there is no evidence there actually was a shot fired)
like i said, stabbings are quieter, and people also think less lethal.
Unless you are in china.
true
then you get mass stabbings of like 100 people
but in china that is someone just accidently sneezing while holding a knife they are so densely populated.
lol
when it comes to shooters one way think of it is this. If a madman can't find a gun then he'll find a knife of not that then poison, making a bomb, acid his bare hands. The weapons are the methods the mindset is what's most lethal.
exactly
i mean, look at the UK, the prized apple of gun control advocates. They still have problems with homicides and seem to now include basically any lawn care equipment as "deadly weapons". Which, to an extent, they can be, but usually its deadly to the operator because they were careless.
if they ban guns, this is the next target: https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/sei_563403.jpg?w=748&h=561&crop=1
and that still doesn't address the problem
oi you got a license for that potato peeler?
@Adreyu people's arguments with that is that the killer would have to try a lot harder to kill that many people with knife or poison vs a gun you can just buy or steal
tbh I just point people to cars
that is a real fucking tweet from a police department
cars kill a ton of people but no one's gonna willingly part with that power if they have it
these tools can harm as well if ends up in wrong hands. *looks at my hands. you mean these tools?