Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-05-24 15:11:03 UTC  

alright

2018-05-24 15:11:09 UTC  

it also reduces the value of YT's subscription, as the aggregator subs rise in relevance

2018-05-24 15:11:38 UTC  

if you make it one button click to upload a video to say youtube and bitchute at the same time, and the tool handles filling out descriptions and title boxes, all that jazz

2018-05-24 15:11:41 UTC  

I wouldn't do it embedded

2018-05-24 15:12:09 UTC  

the idea is simply to fix the subscription problem and visibility of what people want to see

2018-05-24 15:12:25 UTC  

so i need to visit one site, just to then go visit another site?

2018-05-24 15:13:01 UTC  

that's what an aggregator is, pretty much

2018-05-24 15:13:20 UTC  

why not skip the middle man? i mean, part of the problem is that subs don't know they have missed a video, and so long as you can still go to a person page and look at the last upload (which may soon not work on youtube), why would i go to this other site?

2018-05-24 15:13:22 UTC  

Science has proven it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/449228424217624588/0082fb545e87d7202026023cafda30b4.jpeg

2018-05-24 15:13:27 UTC  

remember, people are lazy

2018-05-24 15:13:35 UTC  

too many clicks and people get annoyed

2018-05-24 15:13:45 UTC  

UI design 101

2018-05-24 15:13:55 UTC  

@Grenade123 if you have 50 subs, do you go to their channels one by one?

2018-05-24 15:14:06 UTC  

I don't

2018-05-24 15:14:25 UTC  

see the only problem i have with an aggregator is do people even know what they are anymore? like the idea is to fight the hidding of content on youtube by youtube, and youtube isint just where videos are uploaded but its also the biggest aggregator for videos in the world besides like the video section on google when you search. so how does an aggragator actually increase growth? advertising the aggragator?

2018-05-24 15:15:01 UTC  

the idea was just to fix the visibility issue

2018-05-24 15:15:11 UTC  

not the ad revenue

2018-05-24 15:15:24 UTC  

yeah i just asked about the visibility issue

2018-05-24 15:15:54 UTC  

depending on the volume of people in the aggregator, it can start paying creators for viewers that come from there

2018-05-24 15:16:22 UTC  

the main way aggragators work is sub sharing

2018-05-24 15:16:32 UTC  

@Deadpool Bruce Jenner proved that already i believe, becoming wamen of the year

2018-05-24 15:16:45 UTC  

`1) alt websites get like no views. which means extra work, time taken away from making videos, for potential no return
2) youtube can control if you get money from ads
3) youtube can control how easy it is to find your video
4) having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea
5) Revenue is a combination of views and ads
6) views is a combo of number of videos, and quality/content of the videos
7) alt sites will, hopefully grow but will do so slowly`

if we can making it easier to maintain 2 or more video upload sites, that should help solve the rest of these problems i would think. anyone agree?

2018-05-24 15:17:31 UTC  

you should add a 8) that actually says what i said before because what i said before was actually very accurate

2018-05-24 15:17:37 UTC  

followed by the visibility issue we could be handled with the same tool by promoting on things like twitter and other places all at once

2018-05-24 15:17:56 UTC  

it would remedy it a bit atleast,
but if you're always gonna upload on youtube regardless, not many people will cross over to alt-sites

2018-05-24 15:18:45 UTC  

but subsharing doesent actually increase the bulk subscribers the entire section of people youve agragated together except that their veiws go up and hopefuly that has ramafications on youtube, but the fact that it doesent is the problem

2018-05-24 15:18:46 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend i modified it because this was a list of problems, and that wasn't really a problem but a solution.

2018-05-24 15:18:56 UTC  

oh sorry then

2018-05-24 15:19:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/449229865615491083/tumblr_nkudxykjI71r4vymlo1_540.gif

2018-05-24 15:19:09 UTC  

i thought it was just a list of factors

2018-05-24 15:19:38 UTC  

@Dr.Wol true. but youtube will do the work of making it so you can't view stuff on youtube for you.

2018-05-24 15:19:45 UTC  

just make a program that automatically uploads to any site/account you add to it

Kind of like how OBS uploads a stream to a certain link

2018-05-24 15:20:02 UTC  

so you can add like 4-5 hosting sites, and the program automatically does it for you every time

2018-05-24 15:20:30 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend "list of a problem, or parts of the problem." but no worries

2018-05-24 15:21:53 UTC  
2018-05-24 15:22:07 UTC  

@Dr.Wol thats what i was thinking. Add youtube, twitter, facebook, bitchute, and minds to it. You upload a video, it goes to bitchute and youtube, then automatically posts links to it on twitter, facebook and minds. something like that

2018-05-24 15:22:19 UTC  

yes

2018-05-24 15:22:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/449230738512936971/naoto20111216.jpg

2018-05-24 15:22:35 UTC  

now the only problem is website APIs

2018-05-24 15:24:02 UTC  

but we could, in theory, make this an open source tool. no need to charge money if people work on it for their own benefit, and there is no real maintain costs unlike a website which needs to pay a server.

2018-05-24 15:25:11 UTC  

so its free for creators, which means they have no reason not to use it, assuming we keep login credentials safe. which means how to save that info locally, or make them login to all the sites every time (not exactly a user friendly way to do things)