Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-05-31 11:16:18 UTC  

sitting in the sofa is unemployment

2018-05-31 11:16:33 UTC  

cutting wood and planting food is not

2018-05-31 11:16:37 UTC  

even if u are not earning money

2018-05-31 11:16:38 UTC  

Actually, more like getting wages

2018-05-31 11:16:50 UTC  

Like say, unpaid leave

2018-05-31 11:16:59 UTC  

THats technically employed still

2018-05-31 11:17:00 UTC  

there is no real good way to fix that problem, but if a coal miners job goes away, he is pretty much SOL unless he can find a way to learn a relevant skill for the markets today, which may be difficult if they are in their 50s

2018-05-31 11:17:16 UTC  

@GingaBomber Full employment is possible and has been achived by many societies like national socialist Germany.

2018-05-31 11:17:16 UTC  

Theres the injured as well, some jobs are hazardous

2018-05-31 11:17:32 UTC  

Those were different times though

2018-05-31 11:17:33 UTC  

Killing the ones who cant work dont count

2018-05-31 11:17:51 UTC  

well full employment is possible if you just kill people who don't fit in

2018-05-31 11:18:14 UTC  

Its a solution all right, but I wont appreciate getting firing squad for loosing a hand

2018-05-31 11:18:16 UTC  

unemployed ppl just are not willing to work for cheap

2018-05-31 11:18:24 UTC  

And i kind of agree grenade,

But my argument was for the fact that theres people who can't get "any" job due to the lowest paid ones being overly filled
You are absolutely right theres plenty of Higher up jobs that need people

2018-05-31 11:18:49 UTC  

u can go to a bar right now and say I will wash ur dishes for 1 dollar

2018-05-31 11:18:50 UTC  

3rd world people taking jobs. And causing the expected pay to go down

2018-05-31 11:19:14 UTC  

So pride is the issue here I think you are gtting at

2018-05-31 11:19:29 UTC  

No respect for that profession

2018-05-31 11:19:56 UTC  

Back in Nazi times there was factory work that needed to be done, so any menial labor person could find work

The issue with modern times is that those jobs are nullified due to 1 robot being able to outwork 10 people and run 24/7 essentially at less pay

2018-05-31 11:20:20 UTC  

And ofc outsourcing to 3rd world countries

2018-05-31 11:20:36 UTC  

AND importing illegals etc and other low-skilled workers who work for lower wages

2018-05-31 11:20:49 UTC  

And well, the amount of intelligence required for the easier jobs has increased the threshold

2018-05-31 11:20:52 UTC  

thus the bottom of the pyramid gets ballooned up

2018-05-31 11:20:56 UTC  

Ask any homeless person if they will do X task for u for cheap $, they will say no

2018-05-31 11:21:15 UTC  

"hey guys, i have an idea. Lets solve homelessness by throwing all the homeless in jail. Then they are not homeless! Sure, the incarcerated popular will increase but thats not where we are looking"

2018-05-31 11:21:17 UTC  

Then you gotta pay them more than how much they get bgging

2018-05-31 11:21:31 UTC  

well thats not unemployment then

2018-05-31 11:21:33 UTC  

its lazyness

2018-05-31 11:21:37 UTC  

and being a parasite

2018-05-31 11:21:43 UTC  

Or smart really

2018-05-31 11:21:45 UTC  

thats actually an issue in Netherlands here
welfare pays as much as minimum wage

So theres people actively refusing to work because they get paid the same for doing nothing
And they can then work illegally and get 2 paychecks basically

2018-05-31 11:21:45 UTC  

thats why I dont give money to homeless ppl

2018-05-31 11:22:44 UTC  

Saying there is no use for a % of humans in a society is just untrue

2018-05-31 11:22:55 UTC  

they just dont want to work

2018-05-31 11:23:15 UTC  

if u take welfare away they will work

2018-05-31 11:23:46 UTC  

ask any person that has a company, big or small, they complain they cant find competent ppl

2018-05-31 11:24:10 UTC  

I can understand the sentiment

2018-05-31 11:24:16 UTC  

and no grenade, we should solve homeless people, like that leader in i believe the philipines, wants to solve the drug addiction problem,
have police shoot and kill addicted people 😛

2018-05-31 11:24:19 UTC  

they have business models that can work with more ppl but there is not enought ppl that are willing to work