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2018-05-31 11:14:14 UTC  

Also alot of jobs moved to thrid world countires.

2018-05-31 11:14:18 UTC  

exactly

2018-05-31 11:14:18 UTC  

Eh I was arguing definitions. Theres always the sick, the pregnant, and the transitioners.

2018-05-31 11:14:27 UTC  

ppl just want to be told what to do and behave like robots

2018-05-31 11:14:29 UTC  

thats not necessarily true

2018-05-31 11:14:35 UTC  

but in reality there is always things to do

2018-05-31 11:14:47 UTC  

there are a lot of jobs that are open but not enough qualitied people to fill them

2018-05-31 11:15:01 UTC  

The sick the pregnant etc will have a family and friends that care for them

2018-05-31 11:15:24 UTC  

if the govt keeps care of u then there is no incentive in forming relationships with ppl

2018-05-31 11:15:34 UTC  

Like I said, no argument ther

2018-05-31 11:15:48 UTC  

there are lots of people who have no college degrees nor previous experience in the relevant field, but have no money to get a college degree nor people willing to hire them so they can get experience

2018-05-31 11:15:50 UTC  

I am only saying that 0% unemployment is not possible

2018-05-31 11:16:07 UTC  

depends what u define as unemployment

2018-05-31 11:16:18 UTC  

sitting in the sofa is unemployment

2018-05-31 11:16:33 UTC  

cutting wood and planting food is not

2018-05-31 11:16:37 UTC  

even if u are not earning money

2018-05-31 11:16:38 UTC  

Actually, more like getting wages

2018-05-31 11:16:50 UTC  

Like say, unpaid leave

2018-05-31 11:16:59 UTC  

THats technically employed still

2018-05-31 11:17:00 UTC  

there is no real good way to fix that problem, but if a coal miners job goes away, he is pretty much SOL unless he can find a way to learn a relevant skill for the markets today, which may be difficult if they are in their 50s

2018-05-31 11:17:16 UTC  

@GingaBomber Full employment is possible and has been achived by many societies like national socialist Germany.

2018-05-31 11:17:16 UTC  

Theres the injured as well, some jobs are hazardous

2018-05-31 11:17:32 UTC  

Those were different times though

2018-05-31 11:17:33 UTC  

Killing the ones who cant work dont count

2018-05-31 11:17:51 UTC  

well full employment is possible if you just kill people who don't fit in

2018-05-31 11:18:14 UTC  

Its a solution all right, but I wont appreciate getting firing squad for loosing a hand

2018-05-31 11:18:16 UTC  

unemployed ppl just are not willing to work for cheap

2018-05-31 11:18:24 UTC  

And i kind of agree grenade,

But my argument was for the fact that theres people who can't get "any" job due to the lowest paid ones being overly filled
You are absolutely right theres plenty of Higher up jobs that need people

2018-05-31 11:18:49 UTC  

u can go to a bar right now and say I will wash ur dishes for 1 dollar

2018-05-31 11:18:50 UTC  

3rd world people taking jobs. And causing the expected pay to go down

2018-05-31 11:19:14 UTC  

So pride is the issue here I think you are gtting at

2018-05-31 11:19:29 UTC  

No respect for that profession

2018-05-31 11:19:56 UTC  

Back in Nazi times there was factory work that needed to be done, so any menial labor person could find work

The issue with modern times is that those jobs are nullified due to 1 robot being able to outwork 10 people and run 24/7 essentially at less pay

2018-05-31 11:20:20 UTC  

And ofc outsourcing to 3rd world countries

2018-05-31 11:20:36 UTC  

AND importing illegals etc and other low-skilled workers who work for lower wages

2018-05-31 11:20:49 UTC  

And well, the amount of intelligence required for the easier jobs has increased the threshold

2018-05-31 11:20:52 UTC  

thus the bottom of the pyramid gets ballooned up

2018-05-31 11:20:56 UTC  

Ask any homeless person if they will do X task for u for cheap $, they will say no

2018-05-31 11:21:15 UTC  

"hey guys, i have an idea. Lets solve homelessness by throwing all the homeless in jail. Then they are not homeless! Sure, the incarcerated popular will increase but thats not where we are looking"

2018-05-31 11:21:17 UTC  

Then you gotta pay them more than how much they get bgging