Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-06-27 09:57:13 UTC  

And how about the auxillaries that became roman citizens?

2018-06-27 09:58:13 UTC  

By serving in the military.

2018-06-27 09:59:13 UTC  

Exactly, people will always deal with people most similar to themselves. By serving in the millitary, they made their connection to the millitary stronger than that to the people.

2018-06-27 09:59:17 UTC  

Again you can force different peoples to be like you but once you stop forcing them to be like you they will just go back to being the way they are.

2018-06-27 10:00:05 UTC  

Anything else more complex than that like style of governance, relligious belief, or even patterns of artistic merit? How much can you attribute that to genetics and how much to ancestral knowledge?

2018-06-27 10:00:31 UTC  

And people know that times of hardship or even "siege mentality" is very effective at making people even more closed minded.

2018-06-27 10:01:02 UTC  

Give me a exmple of what yo want working even after people are left to themsleves. I can give you many examples to prove what I am saying but you can't.

2018-06-27 10:02:28 UTC  

Christianity wasn't western at frist but over time it decame more westernized because the followers of that faith were. You see biology is more important then ideology in the long term.

2018-06-27 10:02:29 UTC  

Oh im sorry, its not like I spend every day arguing with strangers about why my genes are superior.

2018-06-27 10:02:48 UTC  

I don't say me genes are superior.

2018-06-27 10:03:27 UTC  

I am sorry, but you sound very confident about what you are saying, but I need to know your thought process that led you to saying why something complex like style of governence is passed down by only genetics

2018-06-27 10:03:45 UTC  

Retention of ideas? Yeah I will believe that.

2018-06-27 10:04:57 UTC  

Grasping new ideas? Sure

2018-06-27 10:05:23 UTC  

Or creating and innovating on existing ones. Sure

2018-06-27 10:05:59 UTC  

aussieAryan's going to revert back to being a criminal worth sending to a penal colony if we don't pressure him, it's in his genetic nature I'm sure

2018-06-27 10:07:28 UTC  

Race is a good metric to measure a nation's exposure.

2018-06-27 10:07:43 UTC  

A nation with alot of races = a nation that is very accepting of other races.

2018-06-27 10:07:57 UTC  

A nation with more homogenity is one that is more traditional.

2018-06-27 10:08:28 UTC  

But not every nation exists in a vaccum.

2018-06-27 10:08:40 UTC  

And people will always fall back to the teachings of their ancestors.

2018-06-27 10:08:58 UTC  

Or what they recall from their own collective identity.

2018-06-27 10:09:24 UTC  

The only way this experiment can work is if we somehow manage to create a completely sealed off environment

2018-06-27 10:09:37 UTC  

Put in some clones. Not even actual babies.

2018-06-27 10:10:31 UTC  

Governence is how the eliet of the society run it. Europeans evolved in Europe for thousands of years while Africans evolved in Africa, Asians in Asia, ect. These enivronment are every different from one another, Europe and north east Asia have harsh winters which selected for genes regarding intelligence because if people weren't smart enough to prepare for the winter they wold die which wasn't a problem in Africa. This lead to whites and Asians being smart enough to create and maintain civilization. I can't say for sure why Asians tend to be more autocratic but their relative isolation lead to them creating their own different types of societies like how isolated peoples tend to create different languages after enough time.

2018-06-27 10:11:32 UTC  

They became isolationist very quickl

2018-06-27 10:11:45 UTC  

It was only before that they were sailing out looking for trading partners.

2018-06-27 10:11:53 UTC  

And another when they decided to search again.

2018-06-27 10:12:09 UTC  

It was the ideas of the emperor that changed. How does the genetics affect that?

2018-06-27 10:12:09 UTC  

This relative isolation lead to different societes and those different socites lead to those different peoples having differen forms of government which worked for them.

2018-06-27 10:12:40 UTC  

Autocraatic? Then how does that explain the mongols?

2018-06-27 10:13:16 UTC  

They also were very good at spreading their seed, and assimilating other nations.

2018-06-27 10:13:24 UTC  

I told you I don't know why Asians are more autocratic I gess their environment required it.

2018-06-27 10:14:02 UTC  

How about the zulus in africa?

2018-06-27 10:14:20 UTC  

They assimilated them in the sort term. After the Mongols fell their ideas and culture were replaced by others.

2018-06-27 10:14:21 UTC  

They were able to wage war against technologically superior enemies

2018-06-27 10:14:29 UTC  

Because of the death of a leader.

2018-06-27 10:14:35 UTC  

And lost what is your point? @Deleted User

2018-06-27 10:14:36 UTC  

Same with rome

2018-06-27 10:14:54 UTC  

Genes don't determine ability, is what i'm saying

2018-06-27 10:15:10 UTC  

Khan's strategic prowess did not pass down to his sons.

2018-06-27 10:15:31 UTC  

How about Babur and the Mughals?