When you realize that's likely no coincidence, and that the logo likely predates the movie but postdates the book.

Check out the source - 1915. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Socialist_Party_of_America_-_Logo.gif

Some people read 1984 and think it is a cautionary tale. Other read it and see it as a guidebook

Id say the same about rules for radicals

So, that would mean that the handshaking logo has been a socialist logo before even 1984 was written.

The thing is, Leftists actually think they're the heroes in 1984. Somehow they miss the English Socialism aspect and assume it to be fascism.

I know this from experience with leftists.

The Nazis weren't the first ones to use the Swastika to mean longevity, but people who still use it aren't looked on favorably.

At least not in the US. Even the National Socialist Movement changed it's logo from the Swastika.

Litteral Nazis don't use the Nazis icon.

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1025804270879350784

I do like Kyle.

Look just because their toasters kill people, doesn't mean they don't make good toast.

Also just because they make munitions doesn't mean they use the things. Kyle is special sometimes.

I do, too, Poppy.

Don't get me wrong, I marvel at the ingenuity of weapons manufacture. I love going to the air show and seeing the most advanced killing machines ever constructed. Then I sit back and thank Bog I'm not in Iraq.

Death delivered from 30,000 feet.

Okay, but they don't JUST make weapons.

I know. And I know alot of good comes out of the R&D but still, let's not say they are curing cancer.

They make radars, they make communication equipment, they don't cyber security contracting. They do all kinds of non violent things.

R&D is the only thing that war is for tbh

I don't know about that. I think war makes the R&D go faster, I don't know if it's always good for it.

It just directs it.

Yes, from the military budget. It is being doen to make killing ppl easier.

I almost got hired by Raytheon to do cyber security for a healthcare organization.

I don't. With out having a hoard of ppl at your gate scream for your death you wont think of somethings.

They don't just do stuff for the military.

I know. But that is where a lot of there work is based.

Where did he support demsoc?

"democratic socialism, as I understand it"

That's his quote.

Cause demsoc supports what his books warn against

Quote and that means outspoken on it?

1 quote?

That's the quote the claim in the wiki is based off of.

I watched a doc about making missiles and there was a woman went into R&D for weapons coz she grew up in a war zone and wanted to help kill the ppl that terrorised her family. It kind of put things in to perspective for me.#

Perhaps Ingsoc is the nightmare version of democratic socialism.

To be honest, Demsoc was known as the nordic model

It works there and only there