I do, too, Poppy.

Don't get me wrong, I marvel at the ingenuity of weapons manufacture. I love going to the air show and seeing the most advanced killing machines ever constructed. Then I sit back and thank Bog I'm not in Iraq.

Death delivered from 30,000 feet.

Okay, but they don't JUST make weapons.

I know. And I know alot of good comes out of the R&D but still, let's not say they are curing cancer.

They make radars, they make communication equipment, they don't cyber security contracting. They do all kinds of non violent things.

R&D is the only thing that war is for tbh

I don't know about that. I think war makes the R&D go faster, I don't know if it's always good for it.

It just directs it.

Yes, from the military budget. It is being doen to make killing ppl easier.

I almost got hired by Raytheon to do cyber security for a healthcare organization.

I don't. With out having a hoard of ppl at your gate scream for your death you wont think of somethings.

They don't just do stuff for the military.

I know. But that is where a lot of there work is based.

Where did he support demsoc?

"democratic socialism, as I understand it"

That's his quote.

Cause demsoc supports what his books warn against

Quote and that means outspoken on it?

1 quote?

That's the quote the claim in the wiki is based off of.

I watched a doc about making missiles and there was a woman went into R&D for weapons coz she grew up in a war zone and wanted to help kill the ppl that terrorised her family. It kind of put things in to perspective for me.#

Perhaps Ingsoc is the nightmare version of democratic socialism.

To be honest, Demsoc was known as the nordic model

It works there and only there

Homogeneous as hell.

The Nordic model is a mixed economy, though, right? A combination of welfare state and free market?

Yes

And sweden has the most retarded combination in welfare. It is private, but funded by government, yet they get a basic income like sum, so we get the worst of state welfare and worst of private

Fuck me right, and they want to implement it here. Though it will be somewhat better, hopefully they leave healthcare untouched, its already decent

So the US already has a mixed economy then. Other countries just take it a degree further.

Healthcare worked pretty decent and good a few years back

When it was 100% state, because then we at least got the benefits of state owned healthcare... Instead of only the cons of state and privately owned

Like, all equipment was always in most hospitals

Now, you need to go to a specifik which could be on the other side of the city

And because they get finance from the state, a base sum not just for each patient, and we can all agree that companies are there to make money, they don't need to care about the customers for various reason I can list later, game started

Also, we tax sugar and tobacco enough for it to pay for obesity and smoking related issues so the healthcare system doesn't get nerfed

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