Message from @.B

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2018-08-20 20:06:48 UTC  

mate, there's no way socialism isn't left

2018-08-20 20:06:51 UTC  

It happens after a lack of vigilance.

2018-08-20 20:06:51 UTC  

I was giving an example not citing anything as an authority

2018-08-20 20:07:25 UTC  

I advocate for Helsing Capitalism

2018-08-20 20:07:40 UTC  

>Socialism **just means** the state controls the industries.

2018-08-20 20:07:44 UTC  

nice way of putting it btw

2018-08-20 20:08:08 UTC  

"What's Helsing Capitalism..?"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AZ5XZHIDh0>

2018-08-20 20:08:13 UTC  

but wait, you have to adopt some strange definition of socialism that includes half of europe

2018-08-20 20:08:24 UTC  

Command economies are essentially over-overregulation
as I see it, economic left is more regulatory and economic right is less

2018-08-20 20:08:36 UTC  

Socialism is widely regarded as light communism with an acceptance of the state.

2018-08-20 20:08:42 UTC  

nope strange symbol guy. We are no socialists in europe

2018-08-20 20:08:58 UTC  

ik but so many people think you are

2018-08-20 20:09:12 UTC  

Most of Europe is socialist

2018-08-20 20:09:18 UTC  

oh, rly?

2018-08-20 20:09:22 UTC  

The far right equivalent pof socialism would be plutocracy... which socialism often devolves into, but I mean intentionally

2018-08-20 20:09:23 UTC  

🤔

2018-08-20 20:09:33 UTC  

then how is the US not socialist and has been since public schools and the VA is a thing?^^

2018-08-20 20:09:50 UTC  

not in a pure sense, but in Europe you have parties considered "right wing" that are socialist

2018-08-20 20:09:58 UTC  

maybe that's why you are confusing things

2018-08-20 20:10:41 UTC  

Our public schools in germany arent socialist btw. The competition by private schools is not impeded on by our system. In the sense that they also receive a similar funding per student from the government to put them on equal footing.

2018-08-20 20:11:09 UTC  

you are the one bringing up schools though. No one here was talking about schools

2018-08-20 20:11:24 UTC  

Right

2018-08-20 20:11:25 UTC  

ouch, actually living in germany

2018-08-20 20:11:43 UTC  

I totally understand your point, if you live in Germany though

2018-08-20 20:11:57 UTC  

and unlike the VA, insurance policies paid by the state are not tied to paticular doctors.

2018-08-20 20:12:02 UTC  

also, very ironic that you think most of Europe doesn't tend to socialism

2018-08-20 20:12:29 UTC  

oh they're definitely headed that direction

2018-08-20 20:12:34 UTC  

but they're not actually socialist yet

2018-08-20 20:12:47 UTC  

or any more socialist than the US.

2018-08-20 20:12:58 UTC  

social programs are not socialist

2018-08-20 20:13:21 UTC  

in fact, social programs only make sense under capitalism

2018-08-20 20:14:18 UTC  

sorry to interrupt for a bit, but I really wanted an answer to this..
>if a group advocates for full authoritarianism, I call that fascism. Am I wrong?

2018-08-20 20:15:13 UTC  

well, originaly it described a certain italian party.

2018-08-20 20:15:37 UTC  

later it was used to describe all nationalistic, authoritarian and antimarxist movements

2018-08-20 20:15:45 UTC  

i think it may require an element of nationalism

2018-08-20 20:15:47 UTC  

I know, specially how innacurate wikipedia is about this

2018-08-20 20:16:12 UTC  

Antimarxist but also anticapitalist

2018-08-20 20:16:18 UTC  

@Tohob I agree, but wouldn't you say that full authoritarianism inherently has nacionalism?

2018-08-20 20:16:45 UTC  

@.B the EU disagrees

2018-08-20 20:17:10 UTC  

or rather, demonstrates that thats not quite correct

2018-08-20 20:17:35 UTC  

EU isn't even powerful enough to command one country directly