Message from @.B

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2018-08-20 20:06:27 UTC  

Socialism is typicly seen as left. But, no. Socialism just means the state controls the industries. If it were to use it to make people more equal, itd be left (and, no, equality is not inherantly good ffs), but thats not how it was used. Quite the opposite

2018-08-20 20:06:41 UTC  

Yeah corporatism is the ZOMBIE ROT

2018-08-20 20:06:48 UTC  

mate, there's no way socialism isn't left

2018-08-20 20:06:51 UTC  

It happens after a lack of vigilance.

2018-08-20 20:06:51 UTC  

I was giving an example not citing anything as an authority

2018-08-20 20:07:25 UTC  

I advocate for Helsing Capitalism

2018-08-20 20:07:40 UTC  

>Socialism **just means** the state controls the industries.

2018-08-20 20:07:44 UTC  

nice way of putting it btw

2018-08-20 20:08:08 UTC  

"What's Helsing Capitalism..?"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AZ5XZHIDh0>

2018-08-20 20:08:13 UTC  

but wait, you have to adopt some strange definition of socialism that includes half of europe

2018-08-20 20:08:24 UTC  

Command economies are essentially over-overregulation
as I see it, economic left is more regulatory and economic right is less

2018-08-20 20:08:36 UTC  

Socialism is widely regarded as light communism with an acceptance of the state.

2018-08-20 20:08:42 UTC  

nope strange symbol guy. We are no socialists in europe

2018-08-20 20:08:58 UTC  

ik but so many people think you are

2018-08-20 20:09:12 UTC  

Most of Europe is socialist

2018-08-20 20:09:18 UTC  

oh, rly?

2018-08-20 20:09:22 UTC  

The far right equivalent pof socialism would be plutocracy... which socialism often devolves into, but I mean intentionally

2018-08-20 20:09:23 UTC  

🤔

2018-08-20 20:09:33 UTC  

then how is the US not socialist and has been since public schools and the VA is a thing?^^

2018-08-20 20:09:50 UTC  

not in a pure sense, but in Europe you have parties considered "right wing" that are socialist

2018-08-20 20:09:58 UTC  

maybe that's why you are confusing things

2018-08-20 20:10:41 UTC  

Our public schools in germany arent socialist btw. The competition by private schools is not impeded on by our system. In the sense that they also receive a similar funding per student from the government to put them on equal footing.

2018-08-20 20:11:09 UTC  

you are the one bringing up schools though. No one here was talking about schools

2018-08-20 20:11:24 UTC  

Right

2018-08-20 20:11:25 UTC  

ouch, actually living in germany

2018-08-20 20:11:43 UTC  

I totally understand your point, if you live in Germany though

2018-08-20 20:11:57 UTC  

and unlike the VA, insurance policies paid by the state are not tied to paticular doctors.

2018-08-20 20:12:02 UTC  

also, very ironic that you think most of Europe doesn't tend to socialism

2018-08-20 20:12:29 UTC  

oh they're definitely headed that direction

2018-08-20 20:12:34 UTC  

but they're not actually socialist yet

2018-08-20 20:12:47 UTC  

or any more socialist than the US.

2018-08-20 20:12:58 UTC  

social programs are not socialist

2018-08-20 20:13:21 UTC  

in fact, social programs only make sense under capitalism

2018-08-20 20:14:18 UTC  

sorry to interrupt for a bit, but I really wanted an answer to this..
>if a group advocates for full authoritarianism, I call that fascism. Am I wrong?

2018-08-20 20:15:13 UTC  

well, originaly it described a certain italian party.

2018-08-20 20:15:37 UTC  

later it was used to describe all nationalistic, authoritarian and antimarxist movements

2018-08-20 20:15:45 UTC  

i think it may require an element of nationalism

2018-08-20 20:15:47 UTC  

I know, specially how innacurate wikipedia is about this

2018-08-20 20:16:12 UTC  

Antimarxist but also anticapitalist

2018-08-20 20:16:18 UTC  

@Tohob I agree, but wouldn't you say that full authoritarianism inherently has nacionalism?

2018-08-20 20:16:45 UTC  

@.B the EU disagrees