Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-07-03 00:03:13 UTC  

it would

2018-07-03 00:03:51 UTC  

People lamenting the invention of the calculator were concerned that people would forget how to do math themselves.

2018-07-03 00:04:02 UTC  

however there would still be people born by the elites who have a higher chance of being disabled as being disabled in a automated society is a lot easier

2018-07-03 00:04:28 UTC  

People today may still use a calculator for 4+4, or 2*18 or the like

2018-07-03 00:04:41 UTC  

Not because they can't figure out that the first is 8 or the later is 36

2018-07-03 00:04:50 UTC  

But because it speeds the process up

2018-07-03 00:04:56 UTC  

The calculator enhances a person's abilities.

2018-07-03 00:05:08 UTC  

I think there are two paths AI can go.

2018-07-03 00:05:37 UTC  

There's the direction of Automation, where human capability is replaced by machine precision

2018-07-03 00:06:07 UTC  

what if you created a device that made it so that you no longer have to do math at all? like unless you want to do math, every math you could want to do is done before you even knew a math was needed to be done?

2018-07-03 00:06:11 UTC  

thats automation

2018-07-03 00:06:19 UTC  

Where human production skills are waylaid by systems that do it all for us.

2018-07-03 00:06:30 UTC  

we already have that Arch, its called a computer

2018-07-03 00:06:49 UTC  

Naah, that still requires user input.

2018-07-03 00:06:55 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-03 00:06:58 UTC  

I know what Arch is getting at.

2018-07-03 00:07:31 UTC  

So, AI Enhancement would lead to a future where people are still defining the future, but would be able to be more efficient about it.

2018-07-03 00:08:11 UTC  

given the potential to solve such a large number of problems, do you think you can stop any of this? Do you really think after all this time anyone could stop it?

2018-07-03 00:08:43 UTC  

Let's say you've got an AI with you at all times - not a simple computer, mind you, but something you're able to shoulder some of your daily burden on to for life. Essentially micro-automation

2018-07-03 00:09:30 UTC  

the only way to get people providing for themselves over welfare is make it socially benefitial to be self sufficient

2018-07-03 00:09:33 UTC  

That would be something that could amplify human ability as opposed to replacing it.

2018-07-03 00:10:16 UTC  

I think it's entirely possible to reject it, Grenade.

2018-07-03 00:10:33 UTC  

once this technology exists in the world, you can't put it back in the bottle

2018-07-03 00:10:48 UTC  

so you want to tell me, you will get every human on earth to stop researching this

2018-07-03 00:11:00 UTC  

tell russia and china to stop developing tech to beat the us

2018-07-03 00:11:14 UTC  

No.

2018-07-03 00:11:15 UTC  

tell the us to stop developing tech to beat russia and china

2018-07-03 00:11:23 UTC  

I'm saying reject it.

2018-07-03 00:11:23 UTC  

only the implamentation of the tech is the problem, the understanding of how to implament it is not dangerous.

2018-07-03 00:11:47 UTC  

It only replaces us if we let it, financially.

2018-07-03 00:12:00 UTC  

we made it TO replace us

2018-07-03 00:12:05 UTC  

We didn't.

2018-07-03 00:12:06 UTC  

Someone else did.

2018-07-03 00:12:08 UTC  

if we didn;t want it to, we wouldn't make it

2018-07-03 00:12:15 UTC  

no, we. humans

2018-07-03 00:12:17 UTC  

So long as any of us have a dollar to our name, we can reject it.

2018-07-03 00:12:27 UTC  

chances are it won't be someone, but several someones

2018-07-03 00:12:35 UTC  

probably in different areas of the world

2018-07-03 00:13:01 UTC  

again, as i said you need for people to want to work in order to prevent them from choosing not to work and still benefit from the same standard of living

2018-07-03 00:13:17 UTC  

most inventions, even things like electricity or the lightbulb, had multiple people who reached similar ideas, in different parts of the world, unrelated to one another.

2018-07-03 00:13:20 UTC  

so thats why i say we