try selling that to people "hey, you could be lazy but we don't want you to be"

make work great again

try not to sound like a tyrant

if religion was still populer you could try that

yeah, make work great again "oh, but if you become a "disabled person".... well you have to worry about hunger again

all a society needs in order to prevent themselves from being lazy is to see labor as something it wants to do

its too hard a sell. you can't stop automation. there is too much potential good.

people will figure something to do with their labor

they always do and always will

people want to work, but they also don;t want to worry about starving.

they also want to play

it doesent matter if you cant stop automation, all that matters is that if you have a brain you should probably try to stop automation, because you know the results that will insue if you no longer have a working class

you sound like an old man, lamenting the creation of the calculator.

at best 10 to 20% of the population becomes adult children. every result worse than that is how the rest of society reacts to adult children

look at the west, it has a problem of declining birth rates

so maybe the problem of a helpless class sorts itself out through depopulation due to low birth rates

I'd read a very good argument on calculators.

it would

People lamenting the invention of the calculator were concerned that people would forget how to do math themselves.

however there would still be people born by the elites who have a higher chance of being disabled as being disabled in a automated society is a lot easier

People today may still use a calculator for 4+4, or 2*18 or the like

Not because they can't figure out that the first is 8 or the later is 36

But because it speeds the process up

The calculator enhances a person's abilities.

I think there are two paths AI can go.

There's the direction of Automation, where human capability is replaced by machine precision

what if you created a device that made it so that you no longer have to do math at all? like unless you want to do math, every math you could want to do is done before you even knew a math was needed to be done?

thats automation

Where human production skills are waylaid by systems that do it all for us.

we already have that Arch, its called a computer

Naah, that still requires user input.

yeah

I know what Arch is getting at.

So, AI Enhancement would lead to a future where people are still defining the future, but would be able to be more efficient about it.

given the potential to solve such a large number of problems, do you think you can stop any of this? Do you really think after all this time anyone could stop it?

Let's say you've got an AI with you at all times - not a simple computer, mind you, but something you're able to shoulder some of your daily burden on to for life. Essentially micro-automation

the only way to get people providing for themselves over welfare is make it socially benefitial to be self sufficient

That would be something that could amplify human ability as opposed to replacing it.

I think it's entirely possible to reject it, Grenade.

once this technology exists in the world, you can't put it back in the bottle

so you want to tell me, you will get every human on earth to stop researching this