Message from @Arch-Fiend
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there is too much incentive for automation, too much usefulness, for you to effectively stop it.
because ultimately capitalism doesent care about anything more than production
you'd literally have to tell people that you could eliminate the fear of going hungry if you no longer have work but you are afraid of what happens when people don't work
try selling that to people "hey, you could be lazy but we don't want you to be"
make work great again
try not to sound like a tyrant
if religion was still populer you could try that
yeah, make work great again "oh, but if you become a "disabled person".... well you have to worry about hunger again
all a society needs in order to prevent themselves from being lazy is to see labor as something it wants to do
its too hard a sell. you can't stop automation. there is too much potential good.
people will figure something to do with their labor
they always do and always will
people want to work, but they also don;t want to worry about starving.
they also want to play
it doesent matter if you cant stop automation, all that matters is that if you have a brain you should probably try to stop automation, because you know the results that will insue if you no longer have a working class
you sound like an old man, lamenting the creation of the calculator.
at best 10 to 20% of the population becomes adult children. every result worse than that is how the rest of society reacts to adult children
look at the west, it has a problem of declining birth rates
so maybe the problem of a helpless class sorts itself out through depopulation due to low birth rates
I'd read a very good argument on calculators.
People lamenting the invention of the calculator were concerned that people would forget how to do math themselves.
however there would still be people born by the elites who have a higher chance of being disabled as being disabled in a automated society is a lot easier
People today may still use a calculator for 4+4, or 2*18 or the like
Not because they can't figure out that the first is 8 or the later is 36
But because it speeds the process up
The calculator enhances a person's abilities.
I think there are two paths AI can go.
There's the direction of Automation, where human capability is replaced by machine precision
what if you created a device that made it so that you no longer have to do math at all? like unless you want to do math, every math you could want to do is done before you even knew a math was needed to be done?
thats automation
Where human production skills are waylaid by systems that do it all for us.
we already have that Arch, its called a computer
Naah, that still requires user input.
yeah
I know what Arch is getting at.
So, AI Enhancement would lead to a future where people are still defining the future, but would be able to be more efficient about it.
given the potential to solve such a large number of problems, do you think you can stop any of this? Do you really think after all this time anyone could stop it?
Let's say you've got an AI with you at all times - not a simple computer, mind you, but something you're able to shoulder some of your daily burden on to for life. Essentially micro-automation
the only way to get people providing for themselves over welfare is make it socially benefitial to be self sufficient
That would be something that could amplify human ability as opposed to replacing it.